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Javve
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm going to watch this thread as I'm interested as well. I sold my DLink 655. It didn't have loopback support (not saying this one would) and I have no use for it right now. I'm currently shopping for a network adapter and really want to match up manufacturers.

Having the FCC ID number would be handy so anyone could look it up instead of going through smallnetbuilder.

Sash doesn't have a lot of time right now due to school (if you read his sig)... so there is time to get him one. Since it isn't available there then one of us in the us would have to purchase and mail it.

Question... if we mail it is there the option of getting it back once completed or is it handy to have around for updates, etc?

EDIT: This router has the second fastest throughput when compared with others in smallnetbuilder (total simultanious). The next fastest that's worth a hoot is the Netgear WNDR3700 which is my other option.

This router is roughly (not exactly) 1/2 the cost of the WNDR3700

running DD-WRT I would imagine this router would perform better than the netgear would and it has external antennas.

Gigabit Ports to Boot!!

EDIT2:
Main question is if you have need for 5 Ghz radio
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jwbaynham
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 14:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
So forgive me if I'm being ignorant about foreign mailing practices, but can't we just contribute money through PayPal towards this cause and let them buy one off of Amazon? That might be a very "American" thing to say but I assume you can have one shipped from a company as easily as you can ship it from person to person right?
Javve
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 15:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you look up the product on say Amazon it will specify places it cannot ship. So they could go to the US site but still not have access.

So the only way around that would be for one of us in the US to be able to mail it.

Would be a cheap alternative to some of the others if you are not looking for dual band capability and the throughput looks insane.
tipstir
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 13:32    Post subject: ESR-9850 Reply with quote
Ralink RTL3052 (BB+RF) SoC 802.11b/g/n radio, 50mW, 384MHz (WNPU)
Realtek RTL8366RB gigabit switch with 832KB Packet buffer memory

Dual 16MB of RAM = Total 32 MB
4MB for the Flash

Highlighted specs

Speed Booster (hardware network engine) up 17% (real test for me is how fast will Cafe World on Face Book will be under netbook, laptop and quad-core desktop) Can it get any faster?
One Touch Setup (ya, ya)
P2P Enhanced Hardware
19000 Sessions
Hacker Shield Firewall)

ESR-9850
http://www.invictusnetworks.com/datasheets/ESR-9850.pdf

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Routers/AP
EnGenius ESR-9850 1.00/1.12(DHCP)
EnGenius ESR-9850 1.00/1.09 (AP)
Belkin N+ F5D8235-4 v1000/1.01.28 (2x)
Dlink DIR-655 A3/1.32NAB03 Gig
Trendnet TEW-652BRP w/DIR-615 C1/3.11NA
Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 w/DD-WRT V24/SP2/7/09 (2X)


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tipstir
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 13:33    Post subject: Testing ESR-9850 Reply with quote
Youtube videos from me on my ownership of this router. I did purchase two of them.

Here's my take on this AP/ Repeater / Router/ AP / WDS. Well here are 3 youtube videos shot yesterday showing off the router an etc.

ESR-9850 Part1 - demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYI1LeQdf1g

ESR-9850 Part2 - un-boxing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--q6bujNEmw

ESR-9850 Part3 - mounting on the wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wZ31WHHWu4

ESR-9850 Part 4 - Live!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl2SFwbl_iY

Note: Position was move to less interference area.

DD-WRT on this hardware would be great to increase the mW to say 70. 802.11g is weak in this router. 802.11n is stronger. P2P 19000 Max-C no bottlenecks. Tested it with Vuze & PeerBlock along with my TCP.SYS set to 200 and Vuze set to 100 seems the max for that software. 300mb file had came down so fast I couldn't clock it. Prior with a Belkin N+ I was seeking 2-3.6Mb/s down.

Uploading the videos to youtube use take a long time. Part 4 was done in 1080P took me 5 minutes to upload to them. Transfers files of 1.13GB just took seconds. That's PCI-E Gig Dual Direction adapters.

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Routers/AP
EnGenius ESR-9850 1.00/1.12(DHCP)
EnGenius ESR-9850 1.00/1.09 (AP)
Belkin N+ F5D8235-4 v1000/1.01.28 (2x)
Dlink DIR-655 A3/1.32NAB03 Gig
Trendnet TEW-652BRP w/DIR-615 C1/3.11NA
Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 w/DD-WRT V24/SP2/7/09 (2X)
Brogyi
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 21:27    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sash wrote:
this unit is not available in europe

I bought this router in Hungary yesterday.The power supply is european. You can get it shortly.
Brogyi
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 19:19    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some links in EU: http://www.engenius.hu/
http://www.wlan-ok.hu/product.php?productid=1044&cat=0&page=1
No customs.
I wonder why not so popular this router. Question
Javve
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 19:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think part of it has to do with the single band and the wndr3700 being watched closely right now. Plus the fact that they cannot get one locally yet. It would take someone mailing a router to them so it can be supported, since they can't do much with donations for this router.
tipstir
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
ESR-9850 blows the WNDR-3700 out of the water that only can do 4096 max connections as the ESR-9850 maxes out at 19727 for P2P. HNE (Hardware Network Engine for WAN to LAN and LAN to WAN from 619 to 704mbps reported on SNB site where as the WNDR-3700 maxes out at 4xxmbps. Images shown how mb/s transfer is on P2P. Since I use that as the main DHCP router it's really quick.

ESR-9855G was released in USA I doubt DD-WRT will work on since the processor speed of IP7K is 475MHz and 8MB Flash and 64MB DDR applied in ESR9855G along with 100mW for wireless as the ESR-9850 only has 50mW.

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Routers/AP
EnGenius ESR-9850 1.00/1.12(DHCP)
EnGenius ESR-9850 1.00/1.09 (AP)
Belkin N+ F5D8235-4 v1000/1.01.28 (2x)
Dlink DIR-655 A3/1.32NAB03 Gig
Trendnet TEW-652BRP w/DIR-615 C1/3.11NA
Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 w/DD-WRT V24/SP2/7/09 (2X)
ps4all_ict
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 21:26    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sash wrote:
this unit is not available in europe


Are you sure? I have one myself since about 5-6 months now. As I'm a official Senao-Engenius dealer I can tell you the ESR-9850 is available in Europe for months already. My own shop offers this as well other Engenius-Senao routers and I'm from The Netherlands (thus within Europe).

I don't know how you get to that point that it's not available within Europe?

But to be hounest... I'm also curious if there will be support for the ESR-9850 as well in the future.
Brogyi
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 21:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good.Now you can buy it in two EU country. I hope somebody will send a 9850 or enough money.
Anyway I'm going to upgrade its RAM to 64M.
Stigma
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:37    Post subject: Reply with quote
The test results on this router is just CRAZY, especially when you compare it to its pricepoint.

DD-WRT on this thing would be a beast - even though it has some decent functionality inbuilt, its not quite the same without DD-WRT ;)

Oh, and for the people who needed 5ghz support - check out the ESR-9850's little bother. The ESR-7750:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31142-new-to-the-charts-engenius-esr7750-300mbps-dual-band-wireless-n-router

You'd think its a weak router because the troughput is only 100mbits, but the real reason is that it (unfortunately) only has a 100mbit/sec switch.
Take a look at the simultanious connections numbers instead.

Did you think the 19700 simultanious connections on the ESR-9850 was impressive?... Try 44000(!!) on the ESR-7750. The only other tested router that beat it was the Neatgear SRX-5308 which costs pretty exactly 10x as much =P

I think most likely this router has a lot of routing power but is just limited by the switch. The ESR-9850 managed 50mbits with basic QoS function turned on (bandwidth limiting rule). I think this would do just as well if not better - as long as you dont need the gigabit switch :)

Relevant thread at smallsystembuilders for those who want to read more:
http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=3096

I really really hope this can get supported. Im probably buying one (9950 or 7750, not sure yet) either way though :)

-Stigma
Moogle Stiltzkin
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 17:03    Post subject: Reply with quote
If anyone is gonna donate the ESR-9850, i suggest ordering from this Hongkong e-shop.

http://www.linkecomputer.com/products/1009666/ESR9850/EnGenius/


Cheapest price i found and they do international shipping Wink
Stigma
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 17:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
Moogle Stiltzkin wrote:
If anyone is gonna donate the ESR-9850, i suggest ordering from this Hongkong e-shop.

http://www.linkecomputer.com/products/1009666/ESR9850/EnGenius/


Cheapest price i found and they do international shipping Wink


yea, even though it gets sold cheaper on newegg in the US, this seems like a good way forthe devs to just order their own directly (via donations). Its less hassle than having someone buy one and ship it to them and also it allows for several people to chip in with donations to cover the cost.

-Stigma
Moogle Stiltzkin
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 13:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well the one i ordered for myself hasn't arrived. Still on it's way :shock:

I wonder though, why can the 7750 do more connections than the 9850 ?? Confused
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