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Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 5:16 Post subject: Securely downloading and installing Entware. Why not this?
I noticed that in the DD-wrt entware installation guides, all of the links for downloading ddwrt are http, not https. This makes it seem like entware is very dangerous to download and install.
I found this guide to securely download and install entware (https://github.com/Lanchon/ddwrt-secure-entware), but am wondering if it is okay to use, and if so, why it hasn't been implemented in the entware ddwrt wiki or any other ddwrt entware guides?
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 6:39 Post subject:
I used that way and.....in a random amount of time and random devices (couse i ve few devices with Entware) updates stopped...and i ve found that the units with normal way of installing/updating...ware fine...so..i abandoned it... it was not linked to curl or anything missing from ddwrt, nor their https not working...just very very random.....you can always use https for the first deploy...but then, yep updates are always via http...and this is always questionable from the security perspective...well same even for https its not a rocket science
in fact Lanchon way is mentioned here...but people are lazy to search, read, do their homework and ect...
sadly the Entware guys are so bad/inconsistent in updating their packages, as they said they are synchronized with OpenWRT... updates...but sometimes waiting is a too long...
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 15:41 Post subject: Re: Securely downloading and installing Entware. Why not thi
atomicamp wrote:
I noticed that in the DD-wrt entware installation guides, all of the links for downloading ddwrt are http, not https. This makes it seem like entware is very dangerous to download and install.
The reason is very simple: the Wiki was writtten possibly decade(s) ago, when HTTPS was not yet mainstream due to hardware limitations!! Strong encryption needs good infrastructure! Did we talk about TPM 2.0 back then when Win 11 was not even born?
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Joined: 08 May 2018 Posts: 16707 Location: Texas, USA
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 15:45 Post subject:
Okay, I think I know why it wasn't added. The proof is on the forum (not to mention the previously mentioned "official" method link!). When someone is as technically-apt as the OP comes up with something, it may not be properly vetted or correct. Sorry, not sorry. Most tech-savvy people know you can never stop reading or researching and can pick up on clues as to why their key-based authentication ssh is broken that was directly in the information they posted.