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howard@sci1.com
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:37    Post subject: Strategy for DD-WRT updates Reply with quote
I am curious what strategy people use for deciding when to update their DD-WRT router.

I see that new releases drop pretty often and perhaps contain important security fixes.

I've also read that before and after flashing an update one is supposed to set the router back to defaults. This is IMO a serious disincentive because having go through all of the DD-WRT configuration pages and set up everything again is a pain. I am very happy with the way my DD-WRT router is working now and am loathe to go through the setup process again, since I think my ability to re-enter all the info correctly is subject to my human error-prone foibles (even though I have saved images of every configuration page).

So what strategy do you other users use to decide when to update their routers? I really wish that DD-WRT would either allow me to re-import saved settings to a new release or perform an update without a reset.

I am currently running DD-WRT v3.0-r49599 std (07/30/22) on a Netgear R9000.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
People get worked up about configs. Upgrade do not reset, this is your choice. Problems? Fix your config or reset.

r49599 is only few months old. Do not know initial reset build number, if no problems just use the existing config.
Generally, reset is recommended after upgrading from very old builds. Clean start, without worry for nvram vars.

Use screenshots, webpage saves, print to save pdf, PuTTy nvram show output text, logging enabled or clipboard.
Or create configuration backups, or don't do anything at all, upgrade, do not reset, most likely everything is fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your build has at least two know unpatched CVEs. Minimum try to upgrade once a month, then you dont have to worry about configs and resets. But surely always try clearing browser cache to minimize any web interface issues.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the enemies greatest ally when it comes to security is his targets laziness and/or carelessness.

I do a full factory reset and setup everything from scratch with every new build. I mean, there might be something new in dd-wrt that may require you to configure said thing differently than what you did before. But thats entirely up to you.

As for how often one should upgrade, what joker said.

the-joker wrote:
Your build has at least two know unpatched CVEs. Minimum try to upgrade once a month, then you dont have to worry about configs and resets. But surely always try clearing browser cache to minimize any web interface issues.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gameman Advanced Kid wrote:
I do a full factory reset and setup everything from scratch with every new build.

This is overkill, but at least helps you to become very familiar with the web interface as things change over time.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
blkt wrote:
Gameman Advanced Kid wrote:
I do a full factory reset and setup everything from scratch with every new build.

This is overkill, but at least helps you to become very familiar with the web interface as things change over time.


for a Basic use it's not overkill but for advanced use...it takes me an Hour (1h) to rebuild Razz Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 13:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
When you're following development as closely as some of us are, you manage to edit your scripts accordingly if necessary to reconfigure "with a press of a button". I generally don't reset / hard reset unless I run into issues, and production devices get updated once a month. Testing devices, daily or more than once daily.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 13:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
When you're following development as closely as some of us are, you manage to edit your scripts accordingly if necessary to reconfigure "with a press of a button". I generally don't reset / hard reset unless I run into issues, and production devices get updated once a month. Testing devices, daily or more than once daily.


i do know how to script (nvram vlues, selected only...) update, but prefer via GUI, painful but the only way to test GUI, otherwise i don't do reset too...unless needed, but when too long, than i can live with the pain of 1h reconfig... Rolling Eyes Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 13:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 15:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm still on r49626 and working for months. I normally try to stick to a build for as long as I can, but security fixes force me to update when I have time and currently no time to update. I normally monitor the SVN after a new build is release to see if there are any fixes to the build released and also checking the posts on new builds for issues too, before updating. I do have spare Routers I put new builds on if the builds are a couple months apart, so I can quickly swap back to the working "old" build Router if I have issues with the "new" build Router.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 18:39    Post subject: Reply with quote
After reading all of your advice, I took the plunge and upgraded to r50474 without doing any resets. Had a few anxious moments as the router's lights blinked in a very strange fashion, but then it came up and all was well.

Thank you all very much for your support and encouragement.
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