RESOLVED : R9000 with BT full fibre

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vatovey
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 15:59    Post subject: RESOLVED : R9000 with BT full fibre Reply with quote
Afternoon all,

Had BT full fibre 900 installed yesterday, all working fine with the supplied BT SmartHub 2 router.

Ideally, would like to replace with my own Netgear R9000, have latest DD-WRT installed, and all working fine with previous ISP (TalkTalk) via FTTC.

Just wondering if anyone has been successful in getting the R9000 working with BT FTTP ?, and if so - anything special/specific which needs to be configured ?

Thanks, Vaughn.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 19:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
my experience with BT was not great but I successfully replaced their Hub 5 with my DDWRT router...
all i had to do was to transfer connection details to DDWRT router...but in my case i had a DSL modem and HUB 5...
The wan interface was PPPoE with username and password, no idea what is yours...ATM
By that time BT had no additional requirements like WAN tagging, MAC cloning or anything else...swapping the routers was easy..
few things to consider before you take any action.

DDWRT router must have a different IP address than your modem
and to get the full speed of 900Mibit you may need some additional settings..especially if you use WiFi have a look at the forum stickies for hot to set up your wifi correctly

as you said last firmware... the current last is 47618...
make sure you are on it...

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vatovey
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 22:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wan interface is set as you describe, PPPoE.

I've set the username as advised on another forum, as bthomehub@btbroadband.com, password as BT

R9000 operating mode is set as Gateway.

I would love to find out if BT FTTP requires VLAN and WAN tagging.

I've tried MAC cloning, obtained BTSH2 MAC from the router control panel, didn't seem to do anything.

I've set my R9000 as 192.168.1.1, you don't seem to have a modem with BT FTTP, they install an ONT which has an input of fibre cable, and ethernet as an output - which in turn connects to the 'Wan / Internet' connection on the router, I don't believe the ONT has an IP address which is accessible by me.

There is a 'LAN' light which is lit up when connected to the BTSH2, and the same light is lit up when connected to my R9000, meaning I'm part way there I hope.

I suspect all that is needed is some R9000/DD-WRT router configuration, but information is thin on the ground as to what needs to be set as what Sad
vatovey
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 0:54    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, have made some progress.

Stumbled onto a post on here by a user called 'dotvop' who was advising that he/she was also having issues connecting via PPPoE on the R9000.

He/she also suggested connecting via PPPoE Dual, which I have done - and my R9000 has now leased a WAN address successfully.

Looks like PPPoE is possibly broken on the R9000 ?

Am on build 47618.

In order to try and resolve, am happy to check setting or run diagnostics.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
my PPpoE was never dual stack, DS requires first ipv6 to be working/set up...

more on the DS subject
https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/subscriber-mgmt-sessions/topics/topic-map/dual-stack-pppoe-access-monitoring-and-management.html

also there is a chance PPPoE to be broken on R9000,
sadly my R9000 is away from my ISP that runs PPPoE to test it...

best bet is, you call BT and ask for their WAN interface required...(they ware not that helpful in the past)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:27    Post subject: Reply with quote
PPPoE Dual is not about dual stack. Dual means you can connect to two ISPs.
vatovey
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:41    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would like to get PPPoE working, is it worth raising a ticket for this ?, as it has been reported previously.

Is using PPPoE Dual going to cause any problems in general ?

Was previously connected to TalkTalk on FTTC via BT Openreach modem, WAN was on DHCP Automatic, and everything worked fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have seen this before that using PPPoE dual was necessary, and no that probably will not cause problems and yes you can raise a ticket Smile


Edit: if you have links to more reports (there are) just link them also

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
is your PON modem in bridge mode (it should be) if you need to replace your BT router...

my other ISP that provides fiber and provides PON modem requires WAN tag PPPoE ID 204, so call BT and ask what they need and before rising a ticket eliminate/explore any ISP side option...
when rising a ticket provide as much info as possible, more details, more chances to be solved...

what is the current BT router set up...regarding PPPoE settings...IP, pppoe type mac and ect. dont know what else could play role

as i said i was using PPPoE via my 1043v2 was rock solid...

I can have a look and find my old PPPoE set up with BT from my database later...will tell you what do you need for it...if that would help

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://svn.dd-wrt.com/ticket/7083

old known problem for the r9000
vatovey
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 16:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
Whilst the R9000 is leasimg a WAN address, it has disabled DNSMasq and DHCP Authoritive. Things are not really working as they should/used to.

Am thinking of replacing my R9000 with another DD-WRT router, what router would you guys recommend ?, looking at spending a maximum of £400

Or can anyone advise of a possble way to resolve issues with existing R9000.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 16:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
Uhm, how did those get disabled without human intervention? Perhaps we should know which build you're on? Perhaps we should verify this is still a problem on 47618?

https://ftp.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/betas/2021/11-05-2021-r47618/netgear-r9000/

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 17:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not sure how they got disabled, I have tried to re-enable - but they won't re-enable singularly or together. Not sure if it's something to do with having to use PPPoE Dual ?

Router is on latest build v47618 for sure, I check for updates every week Smile

Am happy to run any tests/diagnostics, as I would really like to keep my R9000, but am also happy to buy a DD-WRT router which is supported more fully.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 18:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
nvram show | grep dnsmasq should reveal if they are enabled or disabled:
Code:
root@TL-WR1043NDv2:~# nvram show | grep dnsmasq
auth_dnsmasq=1
dns_dnsmasq=1
dnsmasq_add_mac=0
dnsmasq_cachesize=1500
dnsmasq_options=domain-needed
dnsmasq_no_dns_rebind=1
dnsmasq_strict=1
dnsmasq_rc=0
dnsmasq_enable=1

To change the appropriate variables, you would use nvram set:
Code:
nvram set auth_dnsmasq=1
nvram set dns_dnsmasq=1
nvram commit
reboot

This may be part of what "breaks" with PPPoE? The things we find in the process of troubleshooting... I have emailed BrainSlayer about this to see if there is something broken causing this or what.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 18:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
vatovey wrote:
Am thinking of replacing my R9000 with another DD-WRT router, what router would you guys recommend ?, looking at spending a maximum of £400

Or can anyone advise of a possible way to resolve issues with existing R9000.


yep try anything before sell your R9000 its a great unit...
the next one down is R7800 (the DDWRT flagship) or XR 500 (reboxed R7800)

or XR700 as reboxed R9000...

p.s. well.... i fiddled with my R9000 pppoe and pppoe dual...
pppoe behaves normally, while selecting pppoe dual turns off

Use DNSMasq for DNS
DHCP-Authoritative

for a reason as its suppose to fetch the dhcp and dns from the isp, and you'd need to turn auto DHCP inside the pppoe advanced than click save apply to be able to activate those 2 from above..

But all works as it should regarding selecting settings....

now vatovey to exclude misconfiguration please let us know witch settings do you use
while configuring pppoe, as well witch when you tried pppoe dual...just dont share username and pass Razz

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NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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