WDR3600 On DD-WRT Vs WDR3600 On OpenWRT

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pingbob_again
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:39    Post subject: WDR3600 On DD-WRT Vs WDR3600 On OpenWRT Reply with quote
Here I am showing Bidirectional tests of 2 identical routers with identical settings on the 5g Band 40 Wide with 2 very different results repeatable.
WDR3600 On DD-WRT Vs WDR3600 On OpenWRT, DD-WRT being the first test which keeps dropping packets heavily, Is this just a simple setting I am missing ?

WDR3600 Using DD-WRT Any later Version!
I have 3 WDR3600 Routers which all show the same connection drops whatever the version I use. I think OpenWRT is using kernel 4.14.241 Vs DD-WRT 3.10.108
I am not In the slightest Implying it's the kernel.
========================Test DD-WRT==========================================
iperf3 -c 192.168.0.9 -b 45M --bidir -t 100
Connecting to host 192.168.0.9, port 5201
[ 5] local 172.30.122.36 port 59486 connected to 192.168.0.9 port 5201
[ 7] local 172.30.122.36 port 59488 connected to 192.168.0.9 port 5201
[ ID][Role] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-1.00 sec 5.48 MBytes 46.0 Mbits/sec 0 214 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-1.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 1.00-2.00 sec 5.25 MBytes 44.0 Mbits/sec 0 214 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 1.00-2.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 2.00-3.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 214 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 2.00-3.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 3.00-4.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 214 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 3.00-4.00 sec 5.37 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 4.00-5.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 214 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 4.00-5.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 5.00-6.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 214 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 5.00-6.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 6.00-7.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 214 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 6.00-7.00 sec 5.37 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 7.00-8.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 7.00-8.00 sec 5.28 MBytes 44.3 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 8.00-9.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 8.00-9.00 sec 5.44 MBytes 45.6 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 9.00-10.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 9.00-10.00 sec 5.29 MBytes 44.3 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 10.00-11.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 10.00-11.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 11.00-12.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 11.00-12.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 12.00-13.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 12.00-13.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 13.00-14.00 sec 5.25 MBytes 44.0 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 13.00-14.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 14.00-15.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 14.00-15.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 15.00-16.00 sec 5.38 MBytes 45.1 Mbits/sec 0 291 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 15.00-16.00 sec 4.72 MBytes 39.6 Mbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 16.00-17.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 2 1.41 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 16.00-17.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 17.00-18.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec 1 1.41 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 17.00-18.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 18.00-19.00 sec 15.5 MBytes 130 Mbits/sec 156 246 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 18.00-19.00 sec 34.7 KBytes 284 Kbits/sec
[ 5][TX-C] 19.00-20.00 sec 5.88 MBytes 49.3 Mbits/sec 0 253 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 19.00-20.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
^C[ 5][TX-C] 20.00-20.34 sec 1.75 MBytes 43.7 Mbits/sec 0 253 KBytes
[ 7][RX-C] 20.00-20.34 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID][Role] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-20.34 sec 109 MBytes 45.0 Mbits/sec 159 sender
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-20.34 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec receiver
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-20.34 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec sender
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-20.34 sec 85.2 MBytes 35.2 Mbits/sec receiver
iperf3: interrupt - the client has terminated

=======================Test OpenWRT======================================

~$ iperf3 -c 192.168.0.9 -b 45M --bidir -t 100
Connecting to host 192.168.0.9, port 5201
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID][Role] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 5][RX-S] 0.00-100.00 sec 536 MBytes 45.0 Mbits/sec receiver
[ 8][TX-S] 0.00-100.00 sec 536 MBytes 45.0 Mbits/sec sender
-----------------------------------------------------------
Server listening on 5201 (test #2)

As you can see the first test on DD-WRT drops, well in fact I just aborted the test Vs the second test on OpenWRT which completes fine every time over 100 cycles which I didn't post for obvious reasons just the end result.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is this on r47225 (today's release) of DD-WRT?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 13:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes It's been the same for at least the last 5 or 6 previous versions that I have tested on a couple of WDR 3600 DD-WRT Routers, I can't say when because thats all the versions I have tested using --bidir, I slung together an old Router DIR615 v:d that I have on the current version 47225 which is fine by the way!
I only tested OpenWRT a few days ago for the first time because I couldn't pin the problem on DD-WRT without trying something else.
Hope that makes sense, as I don't wish to waste anybodys time on this, I was just curious if it was just me missing a setting or something simple.

So This..........
iperf3 -c 192.168.0.9 -b 85M --bidir -t 100 -V

Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID][Role] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-100.00 sec 1013 MBytes 85.0 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-100.01 sec 1013 MBytes 85.0 Mbits/sec receiver
CPU Utilization: local/sender 99.9% (21.9%u/78.0%s), remote/receiver 9.2% (3.5%u/5.7%s)
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 99.9% (21.9%u/78.0%s), remote/sender 9.2% (3.5%u/5.7%s)
snd_tcp_congestion cubic
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-100.00 sec 1013 MBytes 85.0 Mbits/sec sender
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-100.01 sec 1011 MBytes 84.8 Mbits/sec receiver
rcv_tcp_congestion cubic

And This..........

iperf Done.

iperf3 -c 192.168.0.9 -b 85M --bidir -t 100 -V

Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID][Role] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-100.00 sec 863 MBytes 72.4 Mbits/sec 2895 sender
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-100.88 sec 860 MBytes 71.5 Mbits/sec receiver
CPU Utilization: local/sender 99.9% (20.2%u/79.7%s), remote/receiver 6.3% (2.3%u/4.0%s)
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 99.9% (20.2%u/79.7%s), remote/sender 6.3% (2.3%u/4.0%s)
snd_tcp_congestion cubic
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-100.00 sec 335 MBytes 28.1 Mbits/sec sender
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-100.88 sec 334 MBytes 27.8 Mbits/sec receiver
rcv_tcp_congestion cubic

iperf Done.

=This Sad

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ian5142
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 13:30    Post subject: Wireless Settings Reply with quote
Are you using the recommended Wireless Settings here: https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Atheros/ath_wireless_settings

It would be best to attach a zip file of screenshots of all of the Wireless Settings. Don't attach the images or embed them directly. The forum is using old software that doesn't handle resizing images properly.

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Atheros:
Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS

Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
UBNT EdgeRouter X - switch
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 14:54    Post subject: Reply with quote
Code:

Wireless Interface wlan1 [5 GHz] - AR958x 802.11n - Max Vaps(8)
Physical Interface wlan1 - SSID [Blurb] HWAddr [BB:4A:00:2C:EE:DD]
Wireless Mode                =AP
Wireless Network Mode        =Mixed
Channel Width                =40 Dynamic
Wireless Channel             =132
Extension Channel            =Upper
Wireless Network Name (SSID) =Blurb
Wireless SSID Broadcast      =Enable



Radio Scheduling              = Disable
Tx Power dBm (Max 19)         = 20 dBm (Max 19)
Antenna Gain                  = 0  dBi
U-APSD (Automatic Power Save) = Disable
Disassoc Low Ack              = Enable
Noise Immunity                = Enable
Protection Mode               = None
RTS Threshold                 = Disable
Airtime Policy                = Disabled
Short Preamble                = Disable
Short GI                      = Enable
TX Antenna Chains             = 1+2
RX Antenna Chains             = 1+2
AP Isolation                  = Disable
Beacon Interval               = 100
DTIM Interval                 = 2
Airtime Fairness              = Disable
WMM Support                   = Enable
Radar Detection               = Disable
ScanList                      = Default
Sensitivity Range (ACK Timing)= 500
Max Associated Clients        = 256
Minimum Signal for authenticate= -120
Minimum Signal for connection  = -120
Poll Time for signal lookup    =  10
Amount of allowed low signals  =  3
Multicast To Unicast           = Disable
Network Configuration          = Bridged
Radio Scheduling               = Disable
     
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 15:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
pingbob_again wrote:
Code:

Wireless Interface wlan1 [5 GHz] - AR958x 802.11n - Max Vaps(8)
Physical Interface wlan1 - SSID [Blurb] HWAddr [BB:4A:00:2C:EE:DD]
Wireless Mode                =AP
Wireless Network Mode        =Mixed
Channel Width                =40 Dynamic - [b]use HT40, not dynamic[/b]
Wireless Channel             =132 - [b]What is the thought here? Use 149 Upper or 36 Upper[/b]
Extension Channel            =Upper
Wireless Network Name (SSID) =Blurb
Wireless SSID Broadcast      =Enable



Radio Scheduling              = Disable
Tx Power dBm (Max 19)         = 20 dBm (Max 19) - [b]I always put in 50, it will max out[/b]
Antenna Gain                  = 0  dBi
U-APSD (Automatic Power Save) = Disable
Disassoc Low Ack              = Enable
Noise Immunity                = Enable - [b]Disable if you have a bunch of iOS devices on your network.[/b]
Protection Mode               = None
RTS Threshold                 = Disable
Airtime Policy                = Disabled
Short Preamble                = Disable - [b]Enable to get higher link speeds[/b]
Short GI                      = Enable
TX Antenna Chains             = 1+2
RX Antenna Chains             = 1+2
AP Isolation                  = Disable
Beacon Interval               = 100
DTIM Interval                 = 2
Airtime Fairness              = Disable - [b]Enable, it allows slower devices to not hog all of the air time[/b]
WMM Support                   = Enable
Radar Detection               = Disable
ScanList                      = Default
Sensitivity Range (ACK Timing)= 500 - [b]Too low, I use 900[/b]
Max Associated Clients        = 256
Minimum Signal for authenticate= -120
Minimum Signal for connection  = -120
Poll Time for signal lookup    =  10
Amount of allowed low signals  =  3
Multicast To Unicast           = Disable
Network Configuration          = Bridged
Radio Scheduling               = Disable
     


The only other thing to check is the regulatory domain which may only be in the 2.4GHz advanced checkbox but it affects both. I would select Canada, as it has the highest allowable power for the most channels.

Wireless Security must be WPA2 + CCMP-128 (AES) in order to get Wireless-N speeds, or AC on AC capable router hardware. WDR3600 is not AC capable.

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Atheros:
Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS

Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
UBNT EdgeRouter X - switch
pingbob_again
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 16:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for your Wisdom, still the same.
WPA2 AES for sure! tried the canada...
Testing WPA3 on one router as I have 3xWDR3600 2xAP and 1xRouter and now sadly I'm using OpenWRT on one test AP which is giving me a solid result, if I had a faster connection than 100/10 I would upgrade to something a bit better like a 7800 etc but atm it isn't worth doing the lot because I get 1GB through the Lan.
tbh I only use such metrics for WiFi testing new releases for candidates for my router which is still on Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r46130 std (03/21/21)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 22:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
enable 'Short Preamble' ?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 22:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sadly that doesn't help.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID][Role] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-100.00 sec 595 MBytes 49.9 Mbits/sec 1378 sender
[ 5][TX-C] 0.00-100.01 sec 593 MBytes 49.8 Mbits/sec receiver
CPU Utilization: local/sender 99.8% (21.9%u/77.9%s), remote/receiver 4.0% (1.7%u/2.2%s)
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 99.8% (21.9%u/77.9%s), remote/sender 4.0% (1.7%u/2.2%s)
snd_tcp_congestion cubic
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-100.00 sec 582 MBytes 48.8 Mbits/sec sender
[ 7][RX-C] 0.00-100.01 sec 581 MBytes 48.7 Mbits/sec receiver
rcv_tcp_congestion cubic

iperf Done.

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