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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 14:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some information stands the test of time as hardware in most of the x86/x86_64 options doesn't change drastically. I don't think someone is going to sacrifice a current offering PC with current hardware for this...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 15:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
Some information stands the test of time as hardware in most of the x86/x86_64 options doesn't change drastically. I don't think someone is going to sacrifice a current offering PC with current hardware for this...
I understand your point. Actually I don't use VPN so I don't need the high end PC as in some extreme cases I see in the forum, but I wish to have good WiFi (speed + coverage). I think there can be some recommended or unrecommended parts over the past few years that are not yet captured in the old posts.
Now after reconsidering, maybe x86 is not suitable for my use case. I've just recently bought a cheap second-hand XR500, and I don't like its bulky size and funny "gaming" shape very much. I prefer the the compact size and the industrial look of the mini PC, but probably I have no choice but to get used to the XR500.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 15:24    Post subject: Reply with quote
You don't necessarily need wireless on an edge router; you can always add (a) wired AP(s). Of course, you may be in a situation where you can't necessarily explore that option.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
You don't necessarily need wireless on an edge router; you can always add (a) wired AP(s). Of course, you may be in a situation where you can't necessarily explore that option.
Thanks for the reminder. I currently have another wired AP (non-ddwrt), but sometimes I receive complaints about WhatsApp calls are disconnected when the users walk away from one router to another. Do I need to have 802.11r enabled for all routers for the FT to work correctly? The QCA Wireless Settings wiki says it should be disabled, is it true?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:30    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Q750G5 J4125, this one stood out to me. Of course, there are plenty of x86 solutions out there.
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the second link is dead, can you please repost another equivalent link for "the stood out one"?

Correct, they are in the same sentence so same products, enclosure, different processors at that time.
Listings update often, expect at any point or given moment the descriptions, options, prices to change.

To directly answer the question it appears you missed my follow up post with all the search terms used.
First was a general search, second was directly to the qotom seller. Product cycle is a matter of months.
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Intel® AES New Instructions, both J4105 and J4125 definitely support AES-NI.

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=j4125+i225
https://qotom.aliexpress.com/store/108231/search?SearchText=i225

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=6x+j4125+i225

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=j4125+i211
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/912465532/search?SearchText=j4125+i211

Third link was to point out the other factories, or competing products, like topton, kingnovy, whatever.

Fourth, fifth links were to point out the much older but well supported i211 ethernet options out there.
Officially i225 driver is kernel 5 and up only but not to say it cannot be ported, has been done before.

My goal is to find lowest power x86 without sacrificing too much, obvious for the purpose or use case.
There are 8th, 10th generation i3 and i5 you can dial back or limit in BIOS if the options are available.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
I understand now, thanks for the clarification.
Since you're going to the details, is there anything to watch out regarding WiFi card?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
Uncharted waters especially these compact enclosures and some wireless cards can be bulky, also drivers.

https://compex.com.sg/wifi-module/#tab-1601893555823-6-9
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
IONK wrote:
is there anything to watch out regarding WiFi card?

if you take the Firewall Appliance path I think you’d be better served by keeping the firewall and WiFi separate especially if you need optimal wireless performance and range. If you’re not married to dd-wrt you could find something “like” a used Sophos XG105 on eBay for $125 - $150 (US) and you could put either pfsense or OPNsense on and then re purpose your existing dd-wrt router as an AP. That way you get an actual stable release for a year or with possibly one or two service packs in between eliminating the need to take your entire network down just to upgrade to the latest beta build every couple days.I built my pfsense box in 2018 with new and used parts for about $200 US and it hasn’t missed a beat. My box supports AES-NI but no support for QAT Crypto. I'll run it until 2.5GbE and 10GbE become the next greatest thing...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 21:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
a drawback is that you only have a single ethernet port and you would have to use a USB dongle ethernet adapter for WAN or LAN


There are some raspberry "clones" that are cheaper and more powerful than raspberry Pi. The NanoPi RS5 can be had for less than $100, and its a 2Ghz quad core with 3 native gigabit ethernet ports. I know there is a openwrt build for it, not sure how hard it would be to compile dd-wrt to run on a Rockchip cpu though.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 21:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's mostly about which kernel versions the SoC support was ported to and if it can be backported since DD-WRT is not using any Linux 5.x kernels.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
Raspberry Pi is just a bad idea. Single Ethernet port, few PCIe lanes, reliance on USB ports makes it a nonstarter.
NanoPi R5S or similar are moving in the right direction, for now hardware performance/soft optimizations lacking.

There are so many 5-10W TDP x86 options with far better performance, more lanes, Ethernet ports and features.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803605753457.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803727183827.html
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804672036271.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804063334094.html
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