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pawhtiobo
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 16:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
Router/Version: TP-Link Archer C9 v2
File/Kernel: archer-c9v2-webflash.bin/Linux 4.4.241 #1324 SMP Tue Nov 3 08:52:54 +03 2020 armv7l
Previous/Reset: r44715/no
Mode/Status: Gateway/2.4GHz & 5GHz AP/DHCP server/DNS Server/Port forwarding/ipv4 only/USB Storage
Issues/Errors: None (for now)

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geraud
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:19    Post subject: WAN-LAN Ethernet speeds lower Reply with quote
Router/Version: Netgear R6400 v1
File/Kernel: 05-09-2021-r46604
Previous/Reset: 04-24-2021-r46446
Mode/Status: WAN-LAN Gateway Ethernet connection
Issues/Errors: On the previous versions (<=04-24-2021), I am getting ethernet speeds of ~600mb/s. After this version (>=05-09-2021), I am getting ethernet speeds of ~350mb/s. The only changes in my tests are the firmware versions. I've tested on various versions before and after this update and I get consistent test results.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:15    Post subject: Re: WAN-LAN Ethernet speeds lower Reply with quote
geraud wrote:
Router/Version: Netgear R6400 v1
File/Kernel: 05-09-2021-r46604
Previous/Reset: 04-24-2021-r46446
Mode/Status: WAN-LAN Gateway Ethernet connection
Issues/Errors: On the previous versions (<=04-24-2021), I am getting ethernet speeds of ~600mb/s. After this version (>=05-09-2021), I am getting ethernet speeds of ~350mb/s. The only changes in my tests are the firmware versions. I've tested on various versions before and after this update and I get consistent test results.


What do you mean with ethernet speeds? Is this the LAN <> WAN throughput?

Or is this between two clients on the LAN using ethernet?

How did you measure?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 14:24    Post subject: Re: WAN-LAN Ethernet speeds lower Reply with quote
egc wrote:
geraud wrote:
Router/Version: Netgear R6400 v1
File/Kernel: 05-09-2021-r46604
Previous/Reset: 04-24-2021-r46446
Mode/Status: WAN-LAN Gateway Ethernet connection
Issues/Errors: On the previous versions (<=04-24-2021), I am getting ethernet speeds of ~600mb/s. After this version (>=05-09-2021), I am getting ethernet speeds of ~350mb/s. The only changes in my tests are the firmware versions. I've tested on various versions before and after this update and I get consistent test results.


What do you mean with ethernet speeds? Is this the LAN <> WAN throughput?

Or is this between two clients on the LAN using ethernet?

How did you measure?


This is LAN <> WAN throughput. I have the following connection setup:
ONT -> Ethernet -> R6400 router mode with DDWRT -> Ethernet -> Client
Older firmwares: ~600mb/s
Newer firmwares: ~350mb/s

I've been testing using speedtest.net and the WAN connection is gigabit fios.

For reference, I will typically see 900+mb/s speeds when I replace the R6400 with a newer router and use the R6400 with DDWRT as an AP:
ONT -> Ethernet -> RT-AX58U router mode with merlin -> Ethernet -> R6400 AP mode with DDWRT -> Ethernet -> Client
Newest firmware: ~900mb/s

Unfortunately, I have not tested the speed of R6400 in Router mode with the stock firmware. If any of this would help, later today, I could:
1. test the R6400 in router mode with DDWRT with a reset config
2. test the R6400 in router mode with stock firmware.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 14:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
On setup page enable CTF + FA, the router will reboot.

After the router has started up reboot again.

You will now have 800+ Mb/s

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 16:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
egc wrote:
On setup page enable CTF + FA, the router will reboot.

After the router has started up reboot again.

You will now have 800+ Mb/s


I upgraded to the latest fw (r49467) and enabled CTF + FA and now I get 900+Mb/s. Thank you!
geraud
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 21:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
geraud wrote:
egc wrote:
On setup page enable CTF + FA, the router will reboot.

After the router has started up reboot again.

You will now have 800+ Mb/s


I upgraded to the latest fw (r49467) and enabled CTF + FA and now I get 900+Mb/s. Thank you!


Okay, now my port forwarding doesn't work. Looks like the same issue has been previously noted here:
https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=330016

Is my best solution to buy a non-broadcom-based router?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 17:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="geraud"]
geraud wrote:

Okay, now my port forwarding doesn't work. Looks like the same issue has been previously noted here:
https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=330016

Is my best solution to buy a non-broadcom-based router?

Did you reset config when upgrading? If not, that may well be the problem. I can confirm that port forwarding very much does work on 6400v1 with CFT on latest firmware.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 17:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
NefariousRat wrote:
Did you reset config when upgrading? If not, that may well be the problem. I can confirm that port forwarding very much does work on 6400v1 with CFT on latest firmware.


I did try a full reset and flash latest r49467. Then I enabled some port forwarding and confirmed working. As soon as I enable CTF, I lose Port Forwarding. And after reboot. Are these the correct exact settings to use here:
- Shortcut Forwarding Engine: CTF
- Flow Acceleration: CTF & FA

Also, I am using Port Range Forwarding, not Port Forwarding. Does that make a difference?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 19:24    Post subject: Reply with quote
geraud wrote:
I did try a full reset and flash latest r49467. Then I enabled some port forwarding and confirmed working. As soon as I enable CTF, I lose Port Forwarding. And after reboot. Are these the correct exact settings to use here:
- Shortcut Forwarding Engine: CTF
- Flow Acceleration: CTF & FA

Also, I am using Port Range Forwarding, not Port Forwarding. Does that make a difference?


I only set CTF under Flow Acceleration - I don't require FA and haven't found much on how stable it is under DD-WRT.

Apologies, if only you'd specified Port Range Forwarding initially. I am using Port Forwarding. I assume they're at least somewhat different, since range forwarding doesn't appear to translate to another port. Perhaps checking the iptables rules as explained in the linked thread might show you what's happening, one of my port forward rules looks like so (in Chain PREROUTING):

Code:
target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
DNAT       tcp  --  *      *       0.0.0.0/0            xx.xx.xx.xx       tcp dpt:xxx to:xx.xx.xx.xx:xxx
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 13:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
Edit: Posted to the wrong thread. Removing post to keep historical record sane.

Last edited by ZenInTexas on Thu Jul 14, 2022 0:24; edited 1 time in total
the-joker
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 13:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ZenInTexas fell free to open a separate thread initially providing the info above to start a discussion there rather than taking over this thread. Which then you can provide detailed screenshots of you setup until the point where it goes awry.

If you enabled CTF (level 1 software optimization) then it wont play nice with QoS unless it's adaptive (idk if DD-WRT even supports that), CTF & FA (level 2 software + hardware acceleration) if you have it doesn't even want to go there at all and may even have other issues. But lets discuss them on this thread you will create.

See you there.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 14:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
NefariousRat wrote:

I only set CTF under Flow Acceleration - I don't require FA and haven't found much on how stable it is under DD-WRT.

Apologies, if only you'd specified Port Range Forwarding initially. I am using Port Forwarding. I assume they're at least somewhat different, since range forwarding doesn't appear to translate to another port. Perhaps checking the iptables rules as explained in the linked thread might show you what's happening, one of my port forward rules looks like so (in Chain PREROUTING):

Code:
target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
DNAT       tcp  --  *      *       0.0.0.0/0            xx.xx.xx.xx       tcp dpt:xxx to:xx.xx.xx.xx:xxx


I tested with Port Forwarding instead of Port Range Forwarding, but same results.
I also tried with CTF without FA and it still messes up my port forwarding.
Later, I can try checking iptables rules.

New summary of findings:
<r46604: ~600mb/s, PF works
>=r46604, no CTF, no FA: ~350mb/s, PF works
>=r46604, yes CTF, no FA: ~600mb/s, PF broken
>=r46604, yes CTF, yes FA: ~900mb/s, PF broken
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 15:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ZenInTexas: I have a feeling your flash report is in the wrong thread. Can someone please undo the report format brevity that leaves the question to be asked? We have zero clue which build was actually flashed because of it and a possible ill-placed report.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 16:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
You will need special configs for port forwarding with CTF or CTF & FA (its how its intended to work CTF its doing it job as expected, you only really need CTF for WAN speeds over 200Mbps and CTF & FA for Giga WAN. Any other speeds default SFE will take you there, and like I said;

Please open a thread for this conversation and @geraud can join in or the other way around.

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