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kernel-panic69
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 13:49    Post subject: COVID-19 Reply with quote
So, with this global-reaching pandemic situation upon us, how about a thread where we can all check in and such.. So far, so good here, but I have to do some shopping today since people went crazy buying up everything on the shelves at the store. Hoping that I can get at least another couple weeks' worth of stores. How 'bout everyone else, what's your situation, experience so far?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 14:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
Generally I don’t scare too easily but this one has me a little concerned. The stores have been a zoo for the last 3 weeks. Toilet paper, hand wipes and disposable gloves are like finding hen’s teeth. We have enough food for about a week or longer if we need to stretch it. We’re in NJ and kind of in standby mode to see what new lockdown measures our state gov is going to come up with for today.

On a side note advise your older family members & friends to beware of scammers either by phone, bogus emails or coming to their doors. Now just waiting for the looting to start.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 15:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have noticed that ISP have started removing data caps and sharing spectrum, but some have been throttling bandwidth and video bitrates.

I have been doing much more IT support for people all over.


Personally I am doing fine, hope the rest of you are doing well!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 15:52    Post subject: Reply with quote
05dyna wrote:
Now just waiting for the looting to start.


Some stores I am not wanting to bother with, because now I'm waiting for the great ammo shortage of 2020. And I am being serious. Hoping this thing blows over soon, I don't like it. There has been some seriously crazy traffic on my frequency scanners and my 6th through 9th senses are piqued.

Wildlion wrote:
I have been doing much more IT support for people all over.


So far, no issues requiring support for any clients. I almost thought this thing was going to kill this week's work, but it didn't. Crazy times, nonetheless.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 16:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is the same here in the Netherlands no toilet paper, no pasta but the last days things are getting better the stores are getting supplies again.

Mortality rate in Germany is below 0,2% and almost all elderly people with prior diseases.

So indeed if you are elderly and already have health problems stay indoors.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 16:54    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would not give much to the German statistics, they only test if you were in a risk area like Italy or if you had contact with a corona patient

otherwise bad luck and you should rest at home
but at the same time declare an emergency

and there are more cases every day
but this is only the first wave and is getting worse

Edit: @egc i would exchange toilet paper and noodles for netherweed

neighbors are happy to help!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 17:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
I would not give much to the German statistics, they only test if you were in a risk area like Italy or if you had contact with a corona patient

otherwise bad luck and you should rest at home
but at the same time declare an emergency

and there are more cases every day
but this is only the first wave and is getting worse


No actually the Germans tested a lot, that is why their statistics show only 0.2% mortality rate, it is much higher in Italy and in the Netherlands where they are only testing sick patients.
But indeed that is the problem with these kind of statistics.
But overseeing everything mortality rate does not seem much higher then with other flu's, the problem is that nobody is immune so even with a mortality rate of 0,2% hospitals and morgues cannot cope with the enormous amount of people if you do not take measures to slow down the infection rate.
And if you cannot treat the sick people mortality rate will off course be much higher, that is the challenge we are facing right now.
But there is a lot of uncertainty Sad

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 17:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am from Germany and I can assure you that many health authorities / counties only test if you have been in a crisis area or have had direct contact with a confirmed patient
we don't have the capacity to do it
just like all medical facilities run out of personalized protective equipment
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 17:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
I am from Germany and I can assure you that many health authorities / counties only test if you have been in a crisis area or have had direct contact with a confirmed patient
we don't have the capacity to do it
just like all medical facilities run out of personalized protective equipment


Well there you have it in our newspaper it is stated that general practitioners in Germany can test when they want (off course they do not test healthy people) here in the Netherlands only the Hospitals can test, so that sick people at home are not tested at all, so only the really sick who are going to the hospital are tested which can lead to a higher mortality rate then in Germany, but it is all just numbers sadly it is the people who are dying

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 17:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
just a few links, i guess you understand German?

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/id_87556436/coronavirus-fuer-viele-covid-19-kranke-gibt-es-keine-tests.html

https://www.rbb-online.de/abendschau/videos/20200319_1930/Corona_wg.html

https://www.haz.de/Hannover/Aus-der-Stadt/Ehepaar-mit-Corona-Verdacht-in-Hannover-Niemand-wollte-uns-testen

This is very different from region to region, but mostly those affected do not know whom to contact

the family doctor refers to the health department and does not want to treat

one should not come to the clinic either

and the health department again refers to the family doctor, etc

the health department is usually responsible and they decide whether to take a test based on the risk group

Usually they don't take a test and put prophylactically in their home quarantine for at least 14 days and call from time to time to ask how they feel
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 17:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, yes I can read German, das ist gar kein problem, ich komme oft nach Munchen, will have a look thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 17:52    Post subject: Reply with quote
really not great..

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Italy.... nightmare, I have family over there + in France.

In Italy, they will have a fairly young population after that crazy covid-19, a friend of mine over there, in his entourage, he knows 5 persons who are dead, all was 75 years old +.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 18:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:

Some stores I am not wanting to bother with, because now I'm waiting for the great ammo shortage of 2020.
You’re in Texas so I’m thinking we may be on the same page with regards to 2A. You know the old saying, buy it cheap and stack it deep.

Wildlion wrote:
I have noticed that ISP have started removing data caps and sharing spectrum, but some have been throttling bandwidth and video bitrates.
FWIW I noticed two local competing ISP’s here are providing free previews for premium tv channels. I think they want to help occupy people’s minds while on lockdown

James80 wrote:
Italy.... nightmare, I have family over there + in France.
Its bad all over but very sad about Italy, looks like they are to the point where they are picking who gets treatment and who does not. Then they have deaths and can’t gather for a funerals because of the lock downs, very sad. Hopefully they see a turn around soon
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 20:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here - small eastern-US city with a metro area of 1/2 million or so - we're less concerned about getting the virus than simply going hungry, as the state of the groceries is shocking and deteriorating. Lots of empty shelves. In the meat department you eat what you can get. At the moment that means a store-imposed chicken quota or - oddly - ribs! Don't waste your time looking for pasta. But it's not the current inventory that frightens... it's the trend.

Update 2 April 2020: groceries stabilized, stuff mostly available (except toilet paper, of course Confused ). Shoppers are spread thin in stores now and wary of each other. Masks on less than half of them, but that's likely to change quickly, as guidance is shifting now to "everyone wear masks." I finally pulled a used N100 shop mask from the drawer where it's been since I used it for a few days in 2003. Wouldn't wish its stiffened seals on a med worker, but it'll do for me.

Our big worry is a daughter in a similar-sized city half a day's drive from here. She's an emergency-department nurse in the hospital there. They are working themselves silly and doing it in protective gear, the supplies of which clearly won't last long, particularly the N95 masks, each of which they are using for way too long, far longer than official guidance recommends. She's healthy and strong and will likely catch and recover from the virus without too much drama, but still the stress is there for us all. Update 2 April 2020: That hospital now appears to have 44 Covid patients, a number that is climbing alarmingly fast, even in that nonnewsworthy part of the country. Getting test results there still takes an appalling 10 days.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 21:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
hmm here in London sucks, no bog-roll, eggs, tins and ect. ppl stock piling like mad dogs...UK government has a Brexit chop in its arse, just to make them feel more alive...
its full of dumb ppl that don't care and believe they are "super humans" as well some type that are ridiculously in love with them self's and don't want to stop/change their life, no matter what limit's are imposed...
Its a clock work bomb..UK was the last country that just decided to lock down and its a chaos now...well not many ppl around since they announced the lockdown...or kind of..

Here i was put in quarantine for 14 days, as i traveled back to UK by plane and person on the plane was tested positive, lucky im fine, but Im immuno-compromised and if my posts disappear for a long, you know where to find me one day...
I was planning to design StarWars type of helmet although im cruising around with a proper painters mask... Laughing
And this is just the tip of the Iceberg....

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