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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 23:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's just the plain old Linksys WRT1900ACS, which is the same name BS gives it. So let's just stick with that to keep it simple.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 23:33    Post subject: Reply with quote
pbphoto wrote:
It's just the plain old Linksys WRT1900ACS, which is the same name BS gives it. So let's just stick with that to keep it simple.

Actually, in forum posts you should really identify it as the v1, because BOTH versions show as just the WRT1900ACS on some of the labels on the router (all but one, actually, as the v2 is so identified in only one place) and definitely on the box the router comes in and in the product listing on various sites like Amazon, NewEgg, etc. So when you leave off the v1, we don't know whether you might actually have the v2 but, like all those other mislabeled places, are just not clarifying or not realizing there is a distinction, etc. People can't be expected to remember your personal convention or even trust that you are following BS's convention, so the way to go is with v1 for the absolute least ambiguity.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 23:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:03    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pbphoto wrote:
Linksys WRT1900ACS...

Please always specify WRT1900ACSv1 or WRT1900ACSv2, as they are very different.


I did a little checking. According to OpenWRT, obviously not enough different to worry about:

https://openwrt.org/toh/linksys/linksys_wrt1900acs

Are you sure you're not thinking of the WRT1900AC?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would say they are different in the sense that owners of ACSv1 hardware tend to have more issues.

https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1048560#1048549

https://community.linksys.com/t5/Wireless-Routers/WRT1900ACS-V1-vs-V2-hardware-changes/m-p/1048334/highlight/true#M326255
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:26    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yes, the Marvell supplied proprietary driver binary blobs are no longer updated.
...


Well, this tid bit makes me a bit sad since my current fleet are all some form of WRT1900 and WRT1200. Sad

Guess I haven't noticed much with issues on mine but I hardly ever speed test, check for memory usage, noticed reboots, etc.

Perhaps this info should be included in a pin?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well that's the situation; either you are going to have problems or everything will be fine.

It's entirely dependent on your client devices as Marvell radios in their current state are known to not gracefully handle certain events (again only with specific clients).

It may not be entirely Marvell's fault. For example IoT (ESP8266) hardware is likely not following specification, just as much as Intel and Apple like to do their own thing and create their own "standards" so take it all with a grain of salt.

The truth of the matter is other radios do manage to handle things better. The WRT series has powerful hardware and still very much usable in current environments (thanks to DD-WRT).

You just may want to disable the internal radios, think of it strictly as a router, and choose your own external access point(s).

If you are not having slow wireless performance, reconnect loops, strange unexplained resource usage, one client device wreaking havoc, errors etc then you can ignore this wall of text.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 14:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
Upgraded WRT1200AC v1 from r41986 to r42015 using Waterfox Classic 2019.12 (64 bit) running on Linux Mint 19.3 OS.

Successful update and reboot. No reset, nothing disabled prior to update, uptime about 36 hrs, wireless connected, vpn up immediately. I do not use NAS. SFE is always disabled. OpenVPN client/DNSMasq always enabled. QoS with PIE always enabled.

Kernel Version Linux 4.9.210 #1528 SMP Sat Jan 18 06:36:35 +03 2020 armv7l

Only issue was with a Sony BR player. A few hours after update I tried to stream using the wireless network as usual (successfully streamed wirelessly day prior to update). The player sees the wireless network but would not connect. Tried the usual, restarted player,re-enter password etc etc with no joy. All other wireless devices were connected when I re-checked their status.

Decided to try a manual connect as I had let the player detect/connect to the network with "Auto" months prior. When I pulled up the BR wireless manual interface I noticed the security was set to "WPA/WPA2". I used the dropdown, saw and selected "WPA2" only and saved. On checking wireless status again the player was connected. This may just be odd behavior from the Sony BR Player or the firmware may have rejected the dual security setting for some reason with this update?? Had a similar experience a few months ago with two Fire tablets (don't know if it was the same issue as forgetting the network and auto reconnecting was the fix for those devices).

Sharing in case others have a similar problem. No issues other than this initial problem with the Sony device. Everything is working great including the BR player wireless. BTW, the Sony BR player firmware is current with no new updates available in over a year. I've never had an issue with it connecting prior to this incident.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 16:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
SurprisedItWorks wrote:
pbphoto wrote:
Linksys WRT1900ACS...

Please always specify WRT1900ACSv1 or WRT1900ACSv2, as they are very different.


I did a little checking. According to OpenWRT, obviously not enough different to worry about:

https://openwrt.org/toh/linksys/linksys_wrt1900acs

Are you sure you're not thinking of the WRT1900AC?

That one also. But I'm pretty sure that I've seen people in trouble after flashing WRT1900ACS firmware into a WRT1900ACSv2 that they didn't realize was a v2. I don't keep good enough notes to be sure though, so it certainly could be that it is a nonissue. I do agree with the other observation above that it feels like there have been more issues reported in the new-build threads with the v1. I've also seen claims that the WRT1900ACv2 is the WRT1900ACSv1, that Linksys just changed the name. No idea how reliable that report is.

And re those proprietary Marvell wifi blobs... I have had only two devices, both ancient "legacy" devices, with wifi connection issues with the WRT1900ACSv2. Again I'm totally lacking any firm information on this, but my impression has been that the WRT1900ACSv2 was the last WRT model NOT to be stuck with the blobs, that we had properly maintainable drivers on that model and earlier, that wifi troubles began with the WRT3200ACM. Certainly the latter seemed the first (recent) WRT that flooded the new-build threads with reports of wifi trouble. Does anyone actually know for certain? Or know how to tell?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 17:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
One reference here:

https://openwrt.org/toh/linksys/wrt_ac_series

I would have to go through one by one on wikidevi.wi-cat.ru and techinfodepot and post links for other references. Not feeling that industrious at the moment Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 17:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Linksys firmware-download page https://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=165487 for the WRT1900ACS has separate links for v1 and v2, and when you click them, the file sizes shown for the two firmware files are different.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 19:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
SurprisedItWorks wrote:
The Linksys firmware-download page https://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=165487 for the WRT1900ACS has separate links for v1 and v2, and when you click them, the file sizes shown for the two firmware files are different.


From said linked support article:

IMPORTANT: The WRT1900ACS v1 firmware is not compatible with the WRT1900ACS v2.

IMPORTANT: The WRT1900ACS v2 firmware is not compatible with the WRT1900ACS v1.

So, either OpenWRT, et. al. have not cracked open a v2 to differentiate 100% and have just been lazy asses or something. Even the site migrated from WikiDevi only lists one 'version': https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/Linksys_WRT1900ACS

As does Techinfodepot: http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Linksys_WRT1900ACS

So who's got a V1 and a V2 to guinea pig for the sake of this discussion? There's obviously some kind of hardware or otherwise difference between the two to require two different firmwares (probably most likely a hardware / board ID, at the very least).

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 19:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
SurprisedItWorks wrote:
The Linksys firmware-download page https://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=165487 for the WRT1900ACS has separate links for v1 and v2, and when you click them, the file sizes shown for the two firmware files are different.


From said linked support article:

IMPORTANT: The WRT1900ACS v1 firmware is not compatible with the WRT1900ACS v2.

IMPORTANT: The WRT1900ACS v2 firmware is not compatible with the WRT1900ACS v1.

So, either OpenWRT, et. al. have not cracked open a v2 to differentiate 100% and have just been lazy asses or something. Even the site migrated from WikiDevi only lists one 'version': https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/Linksys_WRT1900ACS

As does Techinfodepot: http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Linksys_WRT1900ACS

So who's got a V1 and a V2 to guinea pig for the sake of this discussion? There's obviously some kind of hardware or otherwise difference between the two to require two different firmwares (probably most likely a hardware / board ID, at the very least).

More than a board ID if it makes the firmware file sizes different at the .1 MB level. It's theoretically possible that one was X.549999 Mb and the other was X.550001 Mb (just enough difference to add "v2" to a string), so that after rounding they'd be X.5 Mb and X.6 Mb, but what are the odds? (Note I'm too lazy to download them both to see.)

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