Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:57 Post subject: recommendation for new Access Points
Hi,
I'm currently running dd-wrt on two WRT54GL devices.
I have two SSID (with their own interfaces), VLAN tagged over a single ethernet port.
I don't use routing, I have a dedicated pfsense device which does this.
I just installed an extra nest cam iq, and it looks like the wifi bandwidth is insufficient to get high quality streamed. (I only have 33% wifi quality for that camera according to dd-wrt.)
So I want to replace these WRT54GL with some faster modern Access Points.
Apart from this bandwidth problem, I've otherwise been extremely satisfied with my setup.
So I'm looking for two new Access Points to run dd-wrt on, which support dual VLAN tagged real SSIDs, have at least one gigabit port, and are very reliable. (I've never had to reboot my WRT54GLs since I put dd-wrt on them, and I'd like to keep not having to reboot my APs if at all possible.)
I'd like to keep this below around 200 euro per AP. The devices should be available to purchase in the EU, preferably from https://www.amazon.de
I've found the Linksys WRT32X, WRT1900ACS and Netgear R7800 AC2600 devices for instance.
But I'm unsure which would be the best device for my needs (dual SSID and very reliable wifi.) Any other suggestions are off course more than welcome as well.
Joined: 16 Nov 2015 Posts: 6410 Location: UK, London, just across the river..
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 13:05 Post subject:
R7800 no doubt... with Kong builds kernel 3.18
there is a lot pros than cons about it... _________________ Atheros
TP-Link WR740Nv1 ---DD-WRT 55179 WAP
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 55303 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -Gargoyle OS 1.15.x AP,DNS,QoS,Quotas
Qualcomm-Atheros
Netgear XR500 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoH,Forced DNS,AP Isolation,4VLAN,Ad-Block,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 55363 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/SmartDNS/DoH,AD-Block,Firewall,Forced DNS,x3VLAN,VPN
NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 13:42 Post subject: Re: recommendation for new Access Points
bernieke wrote:
I'm currently running dd-wrt on two WRT54GL devices.
I have two SSID (with their own interfaces), VLAN tagged over a single ethernet port.
I don't use routing, I have a dedicated pfsense device which does this.
Bernard, This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out how to do and I happen to be using a Netgear 7800 as suggested by Alozaros. I've had it for a while now and it's been a great wireless router but I've recently modified my network in almost the exact same fashion as you. I'm now using pfsense as my main router and firewall and I'm now only using my wireless router as an Access Point.
Could you help me to understand how you achieved your setup with multiple SSIDs on separate VLANs?
Be aware that from what I've read in the wiki, only Broadcom based hardware support port-based VLANs which I'm wondering if that's why your WRT54GL is working properly in this configuration. On the other hand I think port-based VLANs is different from simply VLAN tagging. Which it sounds like that's what you're doing. At any rate I can at least tell you that I believe the Netgear 7800 uses and Atheros chipset.
If I can get it working on my AP then I could definitely agree with Alozaros that the Netgear 7800 is the AP that you ought to upgrade to.
This is what I had written down when I configured mine:
Over telnet:
* nvram set vlan2ports="4 5"
* nvram set vlan2hwname=et0
* nvram commit
* reboot
Over www:
* setup - basic setup:
** disable dhcp server
** save
* wireless - basic settings:
** add virtual interface "public"
** add original interface "private" -> channel 11 for ap1, channel 1 for ap2
** save
* wireless - wireless security:
** configure wpa2-personal with aes for both SSID
** save
* setup - VLANs
** change VLAN of W to 0, assigned to None bridge
** change VLAN of 1,2,3,4 to 1, 2 and tagged, assigned to LAN bridge (both VLAN 1 and 2)
** save
* setup - networking
** create bridges br1 and br2
** save
** set ip/subnet for br1
** save & apply settings (wait for the router to reboot)
** add 4 interfaces to bridges
*** br1 eth1
*** br1 vlan1
*** br2 wl0.1
*** br2 vlan2
** set port setup wan port assignment to vlan0
** save & apply settings
* services - reboot router
Then on the switch:
* port config to TRUNK
* vlan config add port to vlan 2
Joined: 16 Nov 2015 Posts: 6410 Location: UK, London, just across the river..
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 14:37 Post subject:
do keep in mind those are settings for Broadcom device
different routers and chip vendors have different ports for WAN
R7800 Atheros/Quallcomm routers can also trunk ports and create VLAN's
using "swconfig" command instead... _________________ Atheros
TP-Link WR740Nv1 ---DD-WRT 55179 WAP
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 55303 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -Gargoyle OS 1.15.x AP,DNS,QoS,Quotas
Qualcomm-Atheros
Netgear XR500 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoH,Forced DNS,AP Isolation,4VLAN,Ad-Block,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 55363 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/SmartDNS/DoH,AD-Block,Firewall,Forced DNS,x3VLAN,VPN
NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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I'm going to buy two R6400s. Seems like they should be more than fast enough for my need, and them being Broadcom should make it easier on myself to reproduce my current setup.
I finally got around to setting the routers up. I ended up with two R6400v2 (OTP)
Apart from a little snag with the latest stable Kong not having working VAP (which off course took me 6 hours of trying various stuff before I found out it's a firmware bug), it's now up and running (after upgrading to the latest Kong test build).
It's certainly a hell of a lot faster than the WRT54GL were. My cameras finally have the necessary bandwith to stream full quality, and also on my phone the internet is now much snappier.
I did have one problem where the router I had then setup dropped out last night. It was unreachable, the SSIDs no longer showed up, but all the lights seemed to indicate it still working. (The LAN light where it was hooked up to the rest of the network was still showing activity for instance.) I had to power it down and back up to get it working again.
This was still with the latest stable build by the way, so not even the "testing" build they're running now.
I've now set them to reboot nightly, hoping that will prevent the router from locking up again in the future. Still a bit disappointed here, the WRT54GL were rock solid in that aspect (they ran for years on end without a single reboot), and this was originally the reason I went to dd-wrt (well, Tomato before that really, but that's beside the point).
Anyhow, if the nightly reboot fixes it, I'll be plenty happy with the new setup.
So I gave up, sold the Netgears, and bought Ubiquiti Unifi APs instead. They only cost 20 euro more, and only took about an hour to setup (including adding a jail to my freenas for the controller).
Too bad, because my setup really was absolutely rock solid on the WRT54GLs.
Joined: 16 Nov 2015 Posts: 6410 Location: UK, London, just across the river..
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:02 Post subject:
yep i do agree Ubiquiti is a decent brand, and i tried their stuff back in the days, also was looking at their edge routers recently...., but how often they receive an updates, what is their OS and how reliable is according to their hardware and price/performance value ??
So, I decided to give a try to a second-hand R7800 and believe or not, no complains, so far so good... for a router i got for 80 quid, for its value it has excellent performance/reliability, especially with DDWRT Kong builds on it... _________________ Atheros
TP-Link WR740Nv1 ---DD-WRT 55179 WAP
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 55303 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -Gargoyle OS 1.15.x AP,DNS,QoS,Quotas
Qualcomm-Atheros
Netgear XR500 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoH,Forced DNS,AP Isolation,4VLAN,Ad-Block,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 55363 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/SmartDNS/DoH,AD-Block,Firewall,Forced DNS,x3VLAN,VPN
NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 18:13 Post subject: EdgeRouter X
I really like my EdgeRouter X. No wireless but it is a dual-core 800MHz, 256MB of RAM router for $50 US.
Very good performance for price ratio in my opinion. I plan on having it do my personal VPN connection soon, in addition to the QoS and NAT that it is already doing.
It runs EdgeOS, which I believe is linux based. It receives updates fairly frequently (last one was Nov 2018). QoS is decent straight out of the box. No need to configure like DD-WRT. _________________ Before asking a question on the forums, update dd-wrt: Where do I download firmware? I suggest reading it all.
QCA Best WiFi Settings
Some dd-wrt wiki pages are up to date, others are not. PM me if you find an old one.
Atheros:
Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS
Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
UBNT EdgeRouter X - switch
Joined: 16 Nov 2015 Posts: 6410 Location: UK, London, just across the river..
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 14:02 Post subject:
well EdgeRouter X is a cool unit this the one i ve look on it sadly its just a DHCP/NAT and lack's of DNS witch i basically need...
just for the record back in the days i needed QoS but now i can perfectly live without it even when its turned off the router is shaping the traffic pretty well so no complains at all..sadly my ISP provides 200 Mbit Local + only 30-40Mbit External Internet in total DL, where UP is only 20 Mbit so use of QoS is impossible... _________________ Atheros
TP-Link WR740Nv1 ---DD-WRT 55179 WAP
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 55303 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -Gargoyle OS 1.15.x AP,DNS,QoS,Quotas
Qualcomm-Atheros
Netgear XR500 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoH,Forced DNS,AP Isolation,4VLAN,Ad-Block,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 55363 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/SmartDNS/DoH,AD-Block,Firewall,Forced DNS,x3VLAN,VPN
NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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