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rawd
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 18:10    Post subject: WPA3 Reply with quote
Seems like WPA3 is being worked on as the successor to WPA2 and its exploits.

http://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/wpa3-wi-fi-security-protocol-announced-at-ces-2018-is-here-to-solve-the-problems-with-wpa2-4294079.html

Are encryption methods typically added to DDWRT or are there ever hardware restrictions of some sort?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 22:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
"The WPA3 protocol will encrypt all data on public Wi-Fi networks, with encryption built in the open network. This means that every person can use a private channel that nobody can spy on.

The shift from WPA2 to WPA3 is expected to be slow as it can take a while for manufacturers to support them..."
yea tell me about it....

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rawd
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 22:54    Post subject: Re: WPA3 Reply with quote
d0ug wrote:
rawd wrote:
Seems like WPA3 is being worked on as the successor to WPA2 and its exploits.

http://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/wpa3-wi-fi-security-protocol-announced-at-ces-2018-is-here-to-solve-the-problems-with-wpa2-4294079.html

Are encryption methods typically added to DDWRT or are there ever hardware restrictions of some sort?


Most likely WPA3 could be added whenever it gets released. Only issue might be if they decide to use something other than AES for the encryption. A lot of wifi adapters can offload the AES encryption to dedicated AES encryption hardware. If something other than AES were used that means the encryption would have to be done in software, probably providing for a significant impact to wifi performance.


Interesting thanks for the reply
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is anything more known about this?

Are there any plans to bring this to DD-WRT firmware?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 15:51    Post subject: Reply with quote
Any update on this? What is the timeline to bring this to DD-WRT firmware? Which routers will be supported first?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 19:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bs is working on it. I already saw a few commits on trac.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 19:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
That is fantastic news!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 21:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
Now we just have to wait WPA3 update/upgrade release for the clients.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
What I'm wondering about is this:
Does EVERY device on your Wifi network need to support WPA3, or is WPA3 backward compatible so that also devices that only support WPA2 can connect?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 18:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
WPA3 is on the track now i can see BS is working on it...
sadly i can't find any wi-fi client devices or drivers for those that support it ... i will be on the mad wi-fi open wi-fi driver for routers...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
d0ug wrote:
iycgtptyarvg wrote:
What I'm wondering about is this:
Does EVERY device on your Wifi network need to support WPA3, or is WPA3 backward compatible so that also devices that only support WPA2 can connect?


It would hopefully only support WPA3 devices, or at least have an option to be WPA3 only. If it supports falling back to WPA2, then all someone who wants to attack your network has to do is use a WPA2 device, or WPA3 device masquerading as a WPA2 device to unlock all the current and future weaknesses in WPA2

If EVERY device MUST be WPA3, then it's going to take 10 years or so to go from WPA2 to WPA3. On my network I still have support for WiFi b/g because I don't want to throw away devices that still work great for the kids.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 21:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
Could someone confirm WPA3 is included in r36995? My router DIR-859 doesn't seem to have that option. Maybe only specific devices only for now?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 22:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
AKA_SK wrote:
Could someone confirm WPA3 is included in r36995? My router DIR-859 doesn't seem to have that option. Maybe only specific devices only for now?


clear your browser cache or my be do router reset and rebuild manually...i also believe it might not be on
every build yet...even thou i haven seen any WPA3 updated
drivers or client certified on the market yet so not much
clue how you gonna test it anyway... Wink so no rush for now

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iycgtptyarvg
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
Which devices support WPA3? All new phones? Also older phones/tablets/laptops?
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