iOS and Incorrect Passwords

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dbell68
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 21:12    Post subject: iOS and Incorrect Passwords Reply with quote
Wondering if anyone can confirm whether the problem of iOS devices failing to join and reporting incorrect password error has been resolved by recent builds of either Kong or BS ?

I was seeing this a lot a couple of months ago on my R8500, so much so that I went back to stock FW.

Thanks for any insight.
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jxm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:40    Post subject: Re: iOS and Incorrect Passwords Reply with quote
dbell68 wrote:
Wondering if anyone can confirm whether the problem of iOS devices failing to join and reporting incorrect password error has been resolved by recent builds of either Kong or BS ?

I was seeing this a lot a couple of months ago on my R8500, so much so that I went back to stock FW.

Thanks for any insight.


I have a Netgear R8000, and this happens to me quite often,

All of our iPhones and iPads consistently report “Incorrect Password” and fail to connect when I try to establish a connection from outside wifi range.

If I am within range I never have any problems connecting or staying connected.

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imalilteapot
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've experienced this problem with my iPhone and my 2.4ghz connection, but never on the 5ghz connection. This is on my R8000. I can say that as of recent, with Kong builds 34800 and 34900, I don't see this happening anymore.

Personally, I've had the best luck with build 34800, and it can be downloaded here http://ddwrt-kong.clonevince.fr/34800

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nolimitz
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
doesn't happen here on R7000, R6300v2 or E3000. we have around 10 iPhones 3 iPads and 3 android devices.

i noticed it once when i was walking and was almost out of range (very low signal) in which the phone couldn't connect and showed the incorrect password message, once i walked closer to the door and was in range, phone auto-connected.
slice1900
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 15:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've never seen this with my iPhone or anyone else's connecting to my networks.

A few years back I was having some wifi issues with my iPhone that no one else was having, the fix was "reset network settings" in the Settings app. You will lose your saved wifi SSIDs and passwords and need to re-enter them.
Xeon2k8
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 21:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
Same here, never happened on any of the routers from my sig, various generations of iPhones.
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dbell68
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 0:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah I suspect this is related to what I think is a hw fault in the early generation of the R8500, where one of the 5Ghz radios will drop suddenly and fairly repeatedly. If you watch a signal trace from an android phone with something like wireless analyzer you see the signal drops.

I think if the iOS device was associated with that radio then when it tries to reconnect it fails with the incorrect password error when running kong or bs builds.

In the stock firmware, the radio would drop most consistently with smart connect enabled, but I don't see iOS complaining of incorrect passwords in that case.

The radios are definitely more stable with stock firmware and no smart connect than with kong or bs builds.

So, I think it is both the R8500 hw combined with how the firmware reacts to the radio drop, which manifests the iOS problem.

PS I do see similar drops in 2.4Ghz from time to time but the iOS devices are very rarely connected to that rado.
jxm
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:15    Post subject: Reply with quote
dbell68 wrote:
Yeah I suspect this is related to what I think is a hw fault in the early generation of the R8500, where one of the 5Ghz radios will drop suddenly and fairly repeatedly. If you watch a signal trace from an android phone with something like wireless analyzer you see the signal drops.

I think if the iOS device was associated with that radio then when it tries to reconnect it fails with the incorrect password error when running kong or bs builds.

In the stock firmware, the radio would drop most consistently with smart connect enabled, but I don't see iOS complaining of incorrect passwords in that case.

The radios are definitely more stable with stock firmware and no smart connect than with kong or bs builds.

So, I think it is both the R8500 hw combined with how the firmware reacts to the radio drop, which manifests the iOS problem.

PS I do see similar drops in 2.4Ghz from time to time but the iOS devices are very rarely connected to that rado.



It is when you get out of range. The router can transmit a much stronger signal tthan the phone, so at a certain range the phone can see the SSID but cannot send a strong enough signal to connect to the router. When this happens the phone reports “Incorrect Password”. Walk across the street with your phone, it Is easy to prove.

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dbell68
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 23:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
But if that was all that was going on, I would see the same behaviour with stock NetGear firmware and I haven't seen one occurrence of this since I went back to it.

That is why I think the DDWRT firmware bears some responsibility in this.
Xeon2k8
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
dbell68 wrote:
But if that was all that was going on, I would see the same behaviour with stock NetGear firmware and I haven't seen one occurrence of this since I went back to it.

That is why I think the DDWRT firmware bears some responsibility in this.

Well it's a bug that appears when the signal is already useless... Don't think it will get priority at all but of course feel free to file a ticket.

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linust
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:25    Post subject: Share the issue... but well in range Reply with quote
I experience the same issue, on R7000.

On iPhone, iPad, etc. But this is when I am well in range (5M) and with line-of-sight.

Tried multiple versions, and with nvram clearing etc.

My setup (not sure if all relevant)
    Separate Guest WLAN on WL0.1, with Network Isolation
    Separate Guest VLAN (one port)
    DNSMasq used for IP addresses in both default LAN/WLAN and the Guest
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
Have not noticed this problem until I upgraded to the latest Kong build.
In my case I get problems when accessing the router through Google Chrome but not with Safari. Does not seem to be WiFi-related in my case

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
dbell68 wrote:
That is why I think the DDWRT firmware bears some responsibility in this.
linust wrote:
I experience the same issue, on R7000.
What wireless settings have you changed after resetting? Don't use Auto channel nor "*-Only" Wireless Network Modes. Try N/AC-Mixed or whatever it is; if that doesn't help, try Mixed, if that doesn't help try Ack Timing = 0 (if that setting is available on your model).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:03    Post subject: Re: iOS and Incorrect Passwords Reply with quote
dbell68 wrote:
Wondering if anyone can confirm whether the problem of iOS devices failing to join and reporting incorrect password error has been resolved by recent builds of either Kong or BS ?

I was seeing this a lot a couple of months ago on my R8500, so much so that I went back to stock FW.

Thanks for any insight.


Confirmed.

Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r37305 (10/10/1Cool
iPhone XS and iPad Mini fail to connect to the Guest network with the "incorrect password" message.

I found a reliable way to reproduce the problem (after I solved it the first time):

1. Enable QoS
2. Select Interface Priority: wl0.1 and wl1.1

iOS devices fail to connect with "incorrect password" even after I would delete Interface Priority and disable QoS.

Solution: disable WWM (Wireless > WLx-Advanced), and turn it back on.
Kedarnath93
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 17:30    Post subject: Re: iOS and Incorrect Passwords Reply with quote
The configured password is a much-needed thing for security concern. The devices remember the password once after the initial login and you don’t need to enter the password each time. Chances are high that you may not pay attention to remember the passwords other than your home network. Apple is keen about the security and at times, you may find difficult to find WiFi password on iPhone.
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