Best Kong Build for the R7000 Router

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James2k
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
1. The R7000 is well supported by DD-WRT, particularly the Kong builds. Very stable. Personally if your buying now and want more performance maybe the R7800 might be a better choice. Kong builds also exist for this router.

2. I have a 75Mbps connection and I can achieve that download speed over the VPN using the AES-128-CBC cipher and SHA1-HMAC. I am running a slight overclock at 1.2 Ghz though and have additional cooling. In the stock config the limit is usually around about 50Mbps.

3. I can't comment on range comparisons of Stock vs DD-WRT I'm afraid, but I find the range to be adequate. You might want to get further feedback on this point from others though, if its an essential criteria.

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Main router:

Netgear R7000 overclocked to 1.2GHz - DD-WRT v3.0-r35965M kongac

IPv6 6in4 (HE.net), OpenVPN (with PBR and split tunnelling), Entware, dnsmasq with ipset

Easy ipset support for the R7000

VPN speed: Download: 77.96 Mbps Upload: 5.00 Mbps (AES-128-CBC HMAC-SHA1)

Yes you can get 50 Mbps+ with OpenVPN on a R7000 if you configure it properly!

Previous routers:

ASUS RT-N66U - The Dark Knight
WNR2000v3 - Bought on the cheap for someone else, neutered crap
WNR3500Lv1 - First venture into the DD-WRT world
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scope2
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 13:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
James2k wrote:

2. I have a 75Mbps connection and I can achieve that download speed over the VPN using the AES-128-CBC cipher and SHA1-HMAC. I am running a slight overclock at 1.2 Ghz though and have additional cooling. In the stock config the limit is usually around about 50Mbps.


Great, thank you.. While on the subject of VPN.. Do you know if you are able to configure traffic from one (or a number of) machine to go through VPN, while others go direct?
James2k
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 13:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
scope2 wrote:
James2k wrote:

2. I have a 75Mbps connection and I can achieve that download speed over the VPN using the AES-128-CBC cipher and SHA1-HMAC. I am running a slight overclock at 1.2 Ghz though and have additional cooling. In the stock config the limit is usually around about 50Mbps.


Great, thank you.. While on the subject of VPN.. Do you know if you are able to configure traffic from one (or a number of) machine to go through VPN, while others go direct?


Yes DD-WRT has policy based routing implemented within the VPN section of the GUI. You essentially define what IP addresses go through the VPN by CIDR notation i.e. 192.168.1.10/32. You can also do ranges as well, but make sure you don't include the router IP itself either explictly or via a range e.g. 192.168.1.0/24, otherwise it will all break!

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James

Main router:

Netgear R7000 overclocked to 1.2GHz - DD-WRT v3.0-r35965M kongac

IPv6 6in4 (HE.net), OpenVPN (with PBR and split tunnelling), Entware, dnsmasq with ipset

Easy ipset support for the R7000

VPN speed: Download: 77.96 Mbps Upload: 5.00 Mbps (AES-128-CBC HMAC-SHA1)

Yes you can get 50 Mbps+ with OpenVPN on a R7000 if you configure it properly!

Previous routers:

ASUS RT-N66U - The Dark Knight
WNR2000v3 - Bought on the cheap for someone else, neutered crap
WNR3500Lv1 - First venture into the DD-WRT world
scope2
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 13:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great, thanks @James2k. Smile
Xeon2k8
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 18:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
scope2 wrote:
Great, thanks @James2k. Smile

Adding to what James said:
1- I have both, for me it was useless to buy the R7800 so unless you really need raw power then go for the R7000
2- with 256bit encryption it does around 35mbit
3- it's completely the same range

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R6400v2 (boardID:30) - Kong 36480 running since 03/09/18 - (AP - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R7800 - BS 31924 running since 05/26/17 - (AP - OpenVPN Client - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R7000 - BS 30771 running since 12/16/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - OpenVPN Server - Transmission - DDNS - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R6250 - BS 29193 running since 03/20/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - DNSMasq - AdBlocking)
lollabie
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 17:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
scope2 wrote:

1) Is the DD-WRT support for the R7000 still going on? Or am I buying a router that has ran out of steam? (I know its been on sale for 3-4 years now..)


Both Kong and BS builds work generally for the R7000. Kongs are more tested and more stable in my experience but don't have some features like transmission for example.
In terms of "is the router still good?" yes it is. Are there better ones now? Also, yes.

scope2 wrote:

2) Does anybody know what sort of OpenVPN speeds you can expect from this sort of hardware? On my Synology NAS the VPN speed drops significantly due to the CPU speed and the encryption/decryption it is able to do.

I have 40 mbit connection (256bit-cbc) and it's not limited when I use VPN other than the usual overhead VPN has. Beyond that I don't know. I would assume 100mbit might be tricky with decent encryption. But it also depends on what else you have running on it which needs CPU (again, transmission for example).


scope2 wrote:

3) My main reason for getting the R7000 is to improve the WIFI range in the house, does the DD-WRT firmware degrade this compared to the official Netgear Genie?

Don't know, never tried stock firmware. USB read/write speeds do decrease though when going to dd-wrt.
scope2
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks all..

Im hoping to take delivery of the R7000 today, whats the best King firmware version to install? I know some times the latest isnt always the best - particularly as I dont want to encounter any silly beta-type issues the first time around. Smile
Xeon2k8
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 14:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
scope2 wrote:
Thanks all..

Im hoping to take delivery of the R7000 today, whats the best King firmware version to install? I know some times the latest isnt always the best - particularly as I dont want to encounter any silly beta-type issues the first time around. Smile

Except 32735 I think almost any other one in the case of R7000. Read the new Kong build threads for feedback.

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R6400v2 (boardID:30) - Kong 36480 running since 03/09/18 - (AP - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R7800 - BS 31924 running since 05/26/17 - (AP - OpenVPN Client - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R7000 - BS 30771 running since 12/16/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - OpenVPN Server - Transmission - DDNS - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
R6250 - BS 29193 running since 03/20/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - DNSMasq - AdBlocking)
Darren_M
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 22:39    Post subject: I have problems with latest Kong builds. Reply with quote
As per my original post I was coming to the latest Kong build from a very old version.

I did all the Telnet 'erase nvram' stuff and configured from scratch, but since upgrading my R7000 keeps dropping both 2.4 & 5 GHz wifi networks and I have to recycle the power to the router. Sometimes the wifi symbols on our phones go altogether and sometimes they're are present, but there's no internet access. On the very latest version it stopped sending dhcp leases to the wireless clients.

I rolled back to version 31575M, however I used the config file that I created from scratch when I upgraded to the very latest version, which means I may have transferred the problem.

Any ideas for a quick fix, or a more stable version. Or could it simple be that the router has farted when I configured it which is the route of my problems? I'm trying to avoid another 5 hours config from scratch that's all.

Thanks,
Darren

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jimwrt
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 14:27    Post subject: R7000 & comcast 1Gig Reply with quote
I've got an R7000 and had been running an older kong build; I upgraded to comcast 1Gig and can seen 750+ down and 40+ up. I'm currently running that latest, DD-WRT v3.0-r35030M kongac (02/19/1Cool;

However I frequently see the download and upload speeds go to 2 down and 3 up.. ie, everything it slooow.. I have tried hooking directly to the modem (ARRIS TG3482G bridge mode enabled) and I dont see the slowdowns.. If I reboot the router the speeds come back up.. If I click thru the screens in dd-wrt at times it seems the speeds come back up, but not always; At times if I just wait awhile the speeds come back up...

This has happened on the older kong, and the one I'm currently running; The R7000 hasnt got a lot of load, its temp is 55C...

Any thoughts on what could be amiss?
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pyssoo
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:52    Post subject: Reply with quote
dd-wrt is very unstable on R7000. Stay on Netgear stock or try Fresh Tomato. Both are stable.
jimwrt
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
Do either off cutthru so I can get decent performance with 1Gig/40 connection? Or if there is a better choice of router I'd like to hear about it. So far seems all of them are getting 700-850 down...
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phinn
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 13:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
pyssoo wrote:
dd-wrt is very unstable on R7000. Stay on Netgear stock or try Fresh Tomato. Both are stable.


Is this is a joke? The R7000 is often considered the #1 router for DD-WRT. It has had the best all around stability and support for a long time.

For the R7800, yes it's faster, but in practice just the USB 3.0 is faster the rest isn't noticeable. The best part of R7800 is support for OpenWrt 18.06, or even DumaOS if you want to use other firmwares. R7000 isn't supported there.
pyssoo
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 14:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
phinn wrote:
pyssoo wrote:
dd-wrt is very unstable on R7000. Stay on Netgear stock or try Fresh Tomato. Both are stable.


Is this is a joke? The R7000 is often considered the #1 router for DD-WRT. It has had the best all around stability and support for a long time.

For the R7800, yes it's faster, but in practice just the USB 3.0 is faster the rest isn't noticeable. The best part of R7800 is support for OpenWrt 18.06, or even DumaOS if you want to use other firmwares. R7000 isn't supported there.


It's not a joke. If you ignore the random total freezes then it's ok. R7000 it's a great router but the latest dd-wrt builds are not stable for it. I never have these issues on Netgear Genie or Tomato.
phinn
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 18:03    Post subject: Reply with quote
pyssoo wrote:

It's not a joke. If you ignore the random total freezes then it's ok. R7000 it's a great router but the latest dd-wrt builds are not stable for it. I never have these issues on Netgear Genie or Tomato.


Did you do 'nvram erase' after first flash then configure? I've just not heard anyone else say that. Mine hasn't frozen at all, granted I'm not running the most current Kong but a few month old one. I do admit the Netger Genie is rock solid too even though the UI is appalling.
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