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tatsuya46
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
msoengineer wrote:
tatsuya46 wrote:
how do i make the wan led useful like in openwrt, and have it flash on activity?


maybe a possible hint? dunno...not a coder....sucked at C++

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/netgear-r7800-exploration-ipq8065-qca9984/285/1435


was hoping for maybe a gpio command or something

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we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150 ------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] R7800 -----------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
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[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41631 std


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 - how is your x86_64 setup compared to the r7800? I’m looking to go x86 to win the war against bufferbloat with some cake. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 17:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
ACwifidude wrote:
tatsuya46 - how is your x86_64 setup compared to the r7800? I’m looking to go x86 to win the war against bufferbloat with some cake. Cool


good, htb + anything is on par with ipq806x kong latency performance, cake does well. hfsc is still quite broken with anything with fair queuing, only pie and non fq_codel are fine with hfsc, even with tons of cpu power (at 300mbps cable anyway, ymmv).

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150 ------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] R7800 -----------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41631 std


If you use DSLReports please enable hi-res bufferbloat.


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 19:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 wrote:
ACwifidude wrote:
tatsuya46 - how is your x86_64 setup compared to the r7800? I’m looking to go x86 to win the war against bufferbloat with some cake. Cool


good, htb + anything is on par with ipq806x kong latency performance, cake does well. hfsc is still quite broken with anything with fair queuing, only pie and non fq_codel are fine with hfsc, even with tons of cpu power (at 300mbps cable anyway, ymmv).


Is it possible HFSC is messed up on muti-core hardware, but OK on single core? Seems to be okay on single core and non ipq806x...runs ok on my R9000...

I have yet to really dig in to running telnet commands to watch mem/cpu...outside using TOP or watching the gui.

Does anyone know if there is a simple way to capture the max usage of mem/cpu when running speedtests?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 20:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
msoengineer wrote:
tatsuya46 wrote:
ACwifidude wrote:
tatsuya46 - how is your x86_64 setup compared to the r7800? I’m looking to go x86 to win the war against bufferbloat with some cake. Cool


good, htb + anything is on par with ipq806x kong latency performance, cake does well. hfsc is still quite broken with anything with fair queuing, only pie and non fq_codel are fine with hfsc, even with tons of cpu power (at 300mbps cable anyway, ymmv).


Is it possible HFSC is messed up on muti-core hardware, but OK on single core? Seems to be okay on single core and non ipq806x...runs ok on my R9000...

I have yet to really dig in to running telnet commands to watch mem/cpu...outside using TOP or watching the gui.

Does anyone know if there is a simple way to capture the max usage of mem/cpu when running speedtests?


perhaps, there was a issue with that before but instead it was with htb and hfsc was the working one, something about load spreading across cores, kong committed a fix long ago (for htb). pressing c in top on x86 doesnt show per core like r7800 for whatever reason, just total cpu, which maxes at 6% usage (2 cores with HT)

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150 ------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] R7800 -----------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41631 std


If you use DSLReports please enable hi-res bufferbloat.


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway..
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:15    Post subject: Reply with quote
My Broadcom r6250 (dual 800mhz) gives me A+ bufferbloat up to about 150 / 30 QoS limits (I have a 1 gig / 35 mbps cable line). It reaches 21% CPU usage and 45MB memory used during speed tests with QoS enabled (Using the TOP command as well).

Haven’t yet tested the r7800. Was looking to build an x86-64 system to operate as the router to fully use my line to get both max throughput and minimum bufferbloat.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
with my haswell i3, if scaling is linear, it looks like itll take 3 gbit with qos easy, probably 4. and its got pcie slots available for 10gbit nic if ill ever need one of those
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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150 ------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] R7800 -----------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41631 std


If you use DSLReports please enable hi-res bufferbloat.


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway..
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 20:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
ACwifidude wrote:
tatsuya46 - how is your x86_64 setup compared to the r7800? I’m looking to go x86 to win the war against bufferbloat with some cake. Cool


looking at mpcie to pcie wifi adapters i came across this.. https://www.qnap.com/en/product/qwa-ac2600

not the cheapest thing out there but it really has me thinking now..especially if BS's email reply is yes ddwrt x86 would support it

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150 ------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] R7800 -----------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41631 std


If you use DSLReports please enable hi-res bufferbloat.


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
off topic ..
seems like tatsuya46 is building an ultimate router...
just don't get it how the heck you are
ready to pay qwa-ac2600 price £200,
but you don't want to pay x64 DD WRT pro license...
Otherwise for £200 i'll get x2 R7800 or even x2 R9000

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
off topic ..
seems like tatsuya46 is building an ultimate router...
just don't get it how the heck you are
ready to pay qwa-ac2600 price £200,
but you don't want to pay x64 DD WRT pro license...
Interesting to see the BS replay on qwa-ac2600 it seems a decent gear...
Otherwise for £200 i'll get x2 R7800 or even x2 R9000

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TP-Link WR1043NDv2 ----DD-WRT 41659 BS (AP,PPPoE,NAT,AD Blocking,AP Isolation,Firewall,Local DNS,Forced DNS,DoT, VPN)
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 ----DD-WRT 41664 BS (AP,NAT,AD Blocking,Firewall,Wi-Fi OFF,Local DNS,Forced DNS,DoT)
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 ----Gargoyle OS 1.11.0 (AP,NAT,QoS,Quotas)
Qualcomm/IPQ8065
2x Netgear R7800 -------DD-WRT 40270M 4.9 Kong (AP,NAT,AD-Blocking,AP&Net Isolation,VLAN's,Firewall,Local DNS,DNSCrypt-proxy v2 x2)
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 -------DD-WRT 40270M Kong (AP,NAT,VLAN,AD-Blocking,Firewall,Local DNS,Forced DNS,DoT)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alozaros wrote:
but you don't want to pay x64 DD WRT pro license...
Otherwise for £200 i'll get x2 R7800 or even x2 R9000


cause that was for an issue that didnt require paying for.. and as u might of seen in that thread, its fixed now with a commit. that qca9984 nic is interesting cause it will allow basically r7800 radios, in an x86 machine. getting around all the problems the ipq806x architecture is having with k4.x.. for years. current builds are absolutely terrible for wifi, ghost load, tones of wasted cpu time, low jittery throughput.

despite the r7800 now running as a bridge to provide ethernet ports and wifi, with nat, firewall, and qos all disabled, im still stuck on kong's build its that bad. till these issues are fixed, if they are fixed.

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150 ------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] R7800 -----------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41659 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------> DD-WRT v3.0-r41631 std


If you use DSLReports please enable hi-res bufferbloat.


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:26    Post subject: Reply with quote
well... if its just for a WAP R7800 will do great...
in the past i tried it as a WAP shortly with Kng3.18...
R7000 was the main and it was fine,instead it was a good trick to not use broadcom radio too...
Yep, the last Kong build is great, seems like ill get stack there forever...
to be honest as i said before i don't use QoS and somehow the normal shaping, Wi-Fi mainly provides a
decent throughput on 2,4Ghz so no complains at all..
but i do use few VLANS on R7800...using GUI and it works ok..an this is the main reason to get stuck to Kong's build...

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TP-Link WR1043NDv2 ----DD-WRT 41664 BS (AP,NAT,AD Blocking,Firewall,Wi-Fi OFF,Local DNS,Forced DNS,DoT)
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 ----Gargoyle OS 1.11.0 (AP,NAT,QoS,Quotas)
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2x Netgear R7800 -------DD-WRT 40270M 4.9 Kong (AP,NAT,AD-Blocking,AP&Net Isolation,VLAN's,Firewall,Local DNS,DNSCrypt-proxy v2 x2)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 wrote:
ACwifidude wrote:
tatsuya46 - how is your x86_64 setup compared to the r7800? I’m looking to go x86 to win the war against bufferbloat with some cake. Cool


looking at mpcie to pcie wifi adapters i came across this.. https://www.qnap.com/en/product/qwa-ac2600

not the cheapest thing out there but it really has me thinking now..especially if BS's email reply is yes ddwrt x86 would support it


Interesting. Keep us posted on your “ultimate r7800”. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 22:23    Post subject: Latest Kong Build doing Good Reply with quote
After lurking some more to keep tabs on what's happening - I decided to just do the latest Kong build instead of converting over to BS, or Standard, or OpenWRT, or stock NetGear. Thanks again to Bushant and kernel-panic69 for posting and reposting that.

Given all the issues in the BS build - just seems like we're best off running the latest Kong build until there's sort of major security issue. I think.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 22:44    Post subject: Thanks to tatsuya46 Reply with quote
... and I wanted to extend a big thanks out to tatsuya46. You're doing a great job and bringing issue related to the Brainslayer builds for the R7800 to light ... even if BS is kinda shrugging it off. Keep doing what you're doing and how your doing it ... like your latest response on the 6846 SVN issue: https://svn.dd-wrt.com/ticket/6846

Good job!

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