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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:26    Post subject: So what is "slow" wifi on a "450 Mbps" r Reply with quote
My WR1043ND (v3) is running the latest beta version of dd-wrt, and it seems neither an iPhone neither a Windows 10 tablet can reach more than ~50 Mbit/s of transfer speed in either direction (line of sight, no walls or anything).
I turned on wide channel, but nothing really changed. Is there something else I could try?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
iphone 6 or lower will top at 50mbps on 2.4ghz its all the 72mbps phy link rate can do & apple doesnt support ht40 on their devices cause of....whatever apple's reason is.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
well that's depends on your devices radios and wi-fi settings as well...
450Mbs means 3x3 MIMO if you have 3X3 mimo devices they will connect at that speed otherwise they will connect at
2x2 mimo witch means 300/Mbs most of the normal N radios
have only 2 antennas and they support 2x2 mimo with 3 antennas it will be 450mb/s 3x3 mimo and so on
From the router side you must select AES wi-fi encryption
wide channel 40 + lower i recon channel 11 + lower its fine
short GI, Short Preamble and NG mixed for 2,4Ghz radio Wink
also the info under wi-fi clients is broken and shows wrong
its just a cosmetic deffect and it will be fixed soon
try to run this command - iw dev ath0 station dump
it suppose to show you the correct info Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:21    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alozaros wrote:
if you have 3X3 mimo devices they will connect at that speed otherwise they will connect at
2x2 mimo witch means 300/Mbs most of the normal N radios
have only 2 antennas and they support 2x2 mimo with 3 antennas it will be 450mb/s 3x3 mimo and so on

So if the tablet only has e.g. one antenna, it's 54 Mbit and that's it?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:30    Post subject: Reply with quote
so i believe that it depends from the radio some radios are capable, to use single stream (1 antenna) at 54mb or 72mb
it depends from what they support 20HT or wide channel 40HT

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
All in all, perhaps I should switch it with Archer C7 after all.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 14:39    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't see any point of moving to Archer C7 as it has
the same chassis, same SoC, same CPU as 1043v2 and v3..
The only thing that is different is 5GHz radio and it has more flash ram and nvram ram, and supports few more features.
Also if your client's radios are not able to support 5Ghz it will use 2.4Ghz at its N speed.
In general 5Ghz wi-fi range is not so great and its not recommended unless you are in overcrowded 2.4Ghz area and
don't have any other choice or you have AC clients that support AC standard and you need better wi-fi speed for internal transfer.
Do keep in mind that DD-WRT provides more features than the stock firmware, has better support and security for the price of less WAN performance which depends on the routers CPU power...as it uses software NAT instead of hardware..

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 17:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
Primarily I was thinking about it because it's dual band and therefore I can have higher internal wifi speeds (and when I get 100 MBps to the outside world, also there Smile ). More future-proof, I suppose.
The thing is I'm replacing Asus WL500g Premium which I bought in 2007 or 2006, and so far 1043v3 just doesn't seem to be "that much" better. So perhaps I should be looking for something that would last me for the next seven years or so.
(As a sidenote... seems (as discussed in other threads) SNMP is not supported in some builds - which I've used so far to collect bandwidth data - so in this regard my good old Asus was/is better.)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 21:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
next 7 years? thats a bit much.. 802.11ax will long out by then, if u want to attempt that long, then r7800 or so.. the second most powerful cpu supported, 1700mhz dualcore+krait arch, 4x4 mu mimo + 80+80/160mhz, arent going to get any better than that without tri band radios with 4x4 mu mimo vht160 which i dont see any yet
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