Do ANY routers support the 4G UML295?

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wtjoker
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:05    Post subject: Do ANY routers support the 4G UML295? Reply with quote
Looking for any router (not cradlepoint) that supports the Uml295 either out of the box or with an open even commercial version of dd-wrt. Builds I have used with the Uml290 do not work with the 295.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:18    Post subject: Reply with quote
If it works out of the box in Cradlepoint then it may be your only option.

UML295 is currently not supported in any dd-wrt version and there is no plan to include it in a near future.
Support for this kind of device which isn't a 3G dialup modem but a 3G direct ethernet adapter is difficult in a router - this is a typical desktop device needing either the mfgrs original connection manager or access to dongles internal webserver pages.
There is no consistent usage of webserver url's between mfgrs of this kind of device, some of the pages/url's are even hidden or "secret".

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, I went with http://mofinetwork.com/products.php

MoFi Network 3500-3GN Version 2 Rev 2 $99 bux and supports all USB modems including even Phone tethering and the UML295! Reading great things about it.

Canada:

Bell:
Bell: Novatel U720
Bell: Novatel U727
Bell: Novatel Wireless U760
Bell: U950D
Bell: Novatel Wireless U998 (21Mb/S)
Bell: Novatel Wireless U547 (42Mb/s)
Bell: Sierra Wireless 313U LTE stick (150 Mb/s)
Bell: Novatel 679 LTE Stick (150Mb/s)
BellL LTE Stick (Sierra Wireless AirCard 330U) (NEW)

Fido:
Fido: ZTE MF636
Fido: Nokia CS-18
Fido: Sierra Wireless AirCard 763S
Mobilicity:
Mobilicity: Option 452
Mobilicity: E1691
Mobilicity: E366
MTS:
MTS: USB760
MTS: USB727
MTS: USB720
MTS: MC996/998
MTS: Novatel MC547
MTS: Huawei E397 LTE Stick
Rogers:
Rogers: ZTE MF636
Rogers: Sony Ericsson MD400G
Rogers 950D
Rogers: ZTE MF668 (21MB/s)
Rogers Nokia CS-18
Rogers ZTE MF680 (new 42Mb/s stick)
Rogers LTE Stick (Sierra Wireless AirCard 313U)
Rogers LTE Stick (Sierra Wireless AirCard 330U) (NEW)
Rogers LTE Sierra Wireless Hotspot AC754S
Rogers LTE Sierra Wireless Hotspot AC763S

Sasktel:
Novatel USB760
Novatel USB727
Novatel USB720
Novatel MC996/998
Novatel U545/547
Novatel MC679 (LTE)
Telus:
Telus: Sierra Wireless 306 (21Mb/s)
Telus: Huawei E182E (21Mb/s)
Telus: Compass 597
Telus: Sierra Wireless USB598
Telus: USB760
Telus: USB720
Telus: USB727
Telus: Sierra Wireless AC319U (42Mb/s STICK)
Telus: Huawei E372 (42Mbs/s Stick)
Telus: Sierra Wireless 763S
Telus: Novatel 679 LTE Stick
Telus: Huawei E397 LTE Stick
Telus: Huawei E3276 4G LTE Stick (NEW)

Videotron:
Videotron: E1831
Videotron: Huawei E372

Virgin Mobile:
Virgin Mobile: U547 (42Mb/s)
Virgin Mobile: U998 (21Mb/s)
Virgin Mobile: MC760

Wind Mobile:
Windmobile: Huawei E181
Windmobile: Huawei E1691 (Black Stick)
Windmobile: Huawei E366 - 4G White Stick
Windmobile: Alcatel X500U (New black data stick)

Costa Rica:
ICE kolbi:
kolbi ICE E1783
Huawei E303
Huawei E173
ZTE MF193
USA:

AT&T:
AT&T: Lightning
AT&T: Sierra Compass 885 Mercury
AT&T: Option G10322 (Quicksilver)
AT&T: Option GI0461 (Velocity)
AT&T: Sierra Wirless 875U
AT&T: USB Connect 881 USB Sierra Wireless
AT&T: USBConnect 900
AT&T: Shockwave
AT&T: USBConnect Turbo LG LUU-2100TI
AT&T: Huawei E1815
AT&T: Momentum Sierra Wireless 313U (4G\LTE)
AT&T: Elevate Hotspot Sierra Wireless AC754S
AT&T: BEAM U340 (Full 4G/LTE) Plug & Play Support - Full support including latest update for 2014 with NetGear update 01.13.12.13

Cricket:
Cricket: A600
Cricket: UM185
Cricket: Huawei 1705
Cricket: NEW Huawei Boltz (E397) LTE

Millenicom:
Millenicom: USB760
Millenicom: Sierra Wireless 250U
Millenicom: MiFi 4620L and 4620LE (support both Wireless Bride mode and direct USB tethering)

Sprint:
Sprint: U300
Sprint: U301
Sprint: Compass 597
Sprint: Compass 598
Sprint: Sprint U720CDMA
Sprint: Novatel Wireless Ovation U727
Sprint: U720
Sprint: U760
Sprint: 250U
Sprint U770 (3g/4g/WiMax)
Sprint MiFi 500 3G/LTE
Sprint 341U Netgear 3G/4G/LTE Plug & Play (Update: Working with all firmware including latest March 2014 update NTG9X15C_45.04.20.00)

T-Mobile:
T-Mobile:
T-Mobile: UMG1691
T-Mobile: E181
T-Mobile: E1831

US Cellular:
US Cellular: UM185
US Celluar: NEW: UML397 (4G\LTE MODEM with 4G\LTE SPEEDS!!!) (PLUG & PLAY)
Verizon:
Verizon: U720
Verizon: U727
Verizon: MC760
Verizon: UM150
Verizon: UM175VW
Verizon: UMW190 Global USB Modem
Verizon: Novatel 551L LTE Modem (full support)
Verizon: Pantech UML290 (full support 3G + 4G/LTE)
Verizon: Pantech UML295 (Full support for 3G/4G/LTE)
Verizon: MiFi 4620L and 4620LE (support both Wireless Bride mode and direct USB tethering)
Verizon: Pantech MHS291L (support both Wireless Bride mode and direct USB tethering)

Virgin Mobile:
Virgin Mobile: U547 (42Mb/s)
Virgin Mobile: U998 (21Mb/s)
Virgin Mobile: MC760

Jamaica:
Lime:
LIME NETWORK (JAMAICA): Huawei E166
LIME NETWORK (JAMAICA): Huawei E1756

Jordan:
Zain:
ZAIN : Huawei E173u-1

These others are confirmed working stick (note many more are not listed as list is are over 200 stick support:

Alcatel X200
X030
BandRich BandLuxe C100
BandLuxe C100S
BandLuxe C120
BandLuxe C170
BandLuxe C179
BandLuxe C270
Huawei E156G
E160E
E169 Vodafone K3520
EC169
E169G
E170 T Mobile web'n'walk Stick III
E172
E176 T-Mobile web'n'walk Stick IV
E176G
E180
E181
E182E
E220
E226
E270
E366
E373
E1260
EC1260
E1550
E1552
E1568
E1630
E1691
E1750
E1752
E1762
E1820 Starhub
K3565 Vodafone
K3715 Vodafone
K3765
K3520 Vodafone K3520
K4505
Option ICON 210
ICON 210(New ID)
ICON 225
ICON 315
ICON 315(New ID)
ICON 322 AT&T Quicksilver
ICON 401
ICON 431 Vodafone K3760
ICON 451
Icon 452
Icon 505
Icon 505M
GI1515
Sierra Wireless Compass 885 AT&T USBConnect Mercury
Compass 889
Compass 306
Compass 308
USB597
USB598
319U
313U LTE
330U LTE
Sony Ericsson MD400
M300
MD400G
Long Cheers WM62
WM66
ZTE MF262
MF620
MF622 Onda MH502HS
MF626
MF627
MF627+
MF628 Onda MT503HS
MF632
MF633
MF636
MF637
MF638
MF669
MF680
K3520-Z Vodafone
K3565-Z Vodafone
K3565-Z(New M1 ID) Vodafone
AC2726
AC581
Shooting CRI ZX900
Hametech HM632A
Nokia CS10
Novatel USB760
A-Link 3GU
AnyDATA ADU-500A
ADU-510A
ADU-520A
Franklin Wireless CDU-680 Sprint U-680 / C-Motech CDU-680
CGU-628A C-Motech CGU-628 (Different Casing)
MobiData MBD-200HU
Novatel Wireless Ovation MC930D
Ovation MC950D
Ovation MC990D
MC998
MC679LTE
MC547
Samsung SGH-Z810
Solomon S3Gm-660
Toshiba G450
UTStarcom UM175
UM185
elwood
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 0:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
I found this thread from google searching for routers that support UML295... I currently have a UML295 plugged into a Cradlepoint MBR95. I bought a Netgear AC1450 (same hardware as R6300v2) and figured it could plug it to the cradlepoint with IP passthrough and move on with my life...

Turns out that the cradlepoint doesn't have IP passthrough! >.< Their cheapest model with that feature is like $300 and i can't see myself paying $300 for an intermediate device that does nothing but basically interfaces my USB modem to my network. Peplink, the second most popular 3G/4G router company, has a model that does IP passthrough for ONLY $499!

I will check out that router you linked because the specs do say it supports IP passthrough. Quite a shabby website with very poor grammar/spelling though.

Also, you may find this interesting.

I would really love it if i could just simply plug the UML295 directly to the Netgear with DD-WRT and live happily ever after...[/url]
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
elwood wrote:


Quite a shabby website with very poor grammar/spelling though.



That's what you get when a Chinese company opens a website for peddling their goods onto the US/CA market. Wink
There is no company address or company registration info, no "About us", just a toll free number which most
likely is routed to China.
No support page for download of updated firmware, no GPL source code offer which is a breach of the Linux license.
The Mifi is, from what I've been told, not FCC approved.

The origin of this construction is AMIT Taiwan who sells it under their own brand name Zalip and they also
manufacture it for TrendNet, D-Link, Zoom, and Aluratek, companies who do customer support and who also have an
FCC approval for their model names.
It is a standard RaLink RT3050/52 construction combined with a good 3G support firmware written by AMIT.

The modem support list from Mofi is the same as for the known-brand versions, even spelling mistakes and
Chinese translation errors match..

So based on this I would rather buy a D-Link DWR-116 or DIR-510L than the Mofi.

elwood wrote:

I would really love it if i could just simply plug the UML295 directly to the Netgear with DD-WRT and live happily ever after..


It may be possibble but you'll have to do it manually without dd-wrt gui support, I think the cdc_ether driver is included in the dd-wrt build
for AC1450.

try:

modprobe usbnet
modprobe cdc_ether

and check in dmesg if you get a new wan device.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 16:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOM wrote:
elwood wrote:


Quite a shabby website with very poor grammar/spelling though.



That's what you get when a Chinese company opens a website for peddling their goods onto the US/CA market. Wink
There is no company address or company registration info, no "About us", just a toll free number which most
likely is routed to China.
No support page for download of updated firmware, no GPL source code offer which is a breach of the Linux license.
The Mifi is, from what I've been told, not FCC approved.

The origin of this construction is AMIT Taiwan who sells it under their own brand name Zalip and they also
manufacture it for TrendNet, D-Link, Zoom, and Aluratek, companies who do customer support and who also have an
FCC approval for their model names.
It is a standard RaLink RT3050/52 construction combined with a good 3G support firmware written by AMIT.

The modem support list from Mofi is the same as for the known-brand versions, even spelling mistakes and
Chinese translation errors match..

So based on this I would rather buy a D-Link DWR-116 or DIR-510L than the Mofi.

elwood wrote:

I would really love it if i could just simply plug the UML295 directly to the Netgear with DD-WRT and live happily ever after..


It may be possibble but you'll have to do it manually without dd-wrt gui support, I think the cdc_ether driver is included in the dd-wrt build
for AC1450.

try:

modprobe usbnet
modprobe cdc_ether

and check in dmesg if you get a new wan device.


Thanks for the tip and hope! I will definitely try this when i have some time to tinker.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 19:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOM, I have the UML295 connected and it shows up but, of course it gives the "This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem." error.

Do I have a shot at getting it to work if I follow the directions here?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 0:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, I've been at this all day... I don't seem to have modprobe. There is a modprobe file in proc/sys/kernel but it's 0 bytes. Anyway...

The uml295 shows up as a pantech cd rom but also registers with cdc_ether as seen below...

Code:
usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci
usb-storage 1-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
scsi0 : usb-storage 1-2:1.0
scsi 0:0:0:0: CD-ROM            PANTECH  CD-ROM           0000 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x xa/form2 caddy
cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
sr 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
br0: port 4(eth2) entered forwarding state
br0: port 3(eth1) entered forwarding state
br0: port 2(vlan2) entered forwarding state
br0: port 1(vlan1) entered forwarding state
usb 1-2: USB disconnect, device number 2
usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-pci
cdc_ether 1-2:1.0 eth3: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:0a.1-2, CDC Ethernet
 Device, d0:57:85:fe:c0:54


dmesg doesn't show any new wan devices. If you need a complete paste just let me know.

Here's what cat /proc/bus/usb/devices shows...
Code:
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  3 Spd=480  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=10a9 ProdID=6064 Rev= 2.28
S:  Manufacturer=Pantech, Incorporated
S:  Product=PANTECH UML295
S:  SerialNumber=UML295698617838
C:* #Ifs= 8 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA
A:  FirstIf#= 4 IfCount= 2 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=02 Prot=01
A:  FirstIf#= 6 IfCount= 2 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=02 Prot=01
I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=06 Prot=00 Driver=cdc_ether
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  16 Ivl=32ms
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=0a(data ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=cdc_ether
I:* If#= 1 Alt= 1 #EPs= 2 Cls=0a(data ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=cdc_ether
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
I:* If#= 2 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=03(HID  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  64 Ivl=125us
E:  Ad=02(O) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  64 Ivl=125us
I:* If#= 3 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=03(HID  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=84(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  64 Ivl=125us
E:  Ad=03(O) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  64 Ivl=125us
I:* If#= 4 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=02 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=86(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  10 Ivl=32ms
I:* If#= 5 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=0a(data ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=85(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
I:* If#= 6 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=02(comm.) Sub=02 Prot=01 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=88(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=  10 Ivl=32ms
I:* If#= 7 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=0a(data ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=87(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=05(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms


The modem is powered up and connected (solid green light) as the dialer/info is stored locally on the uml295 itself. I've tried with WAN settings on DHCP, iphone, and mobile broadband. As well as setting wan tags to ppp0 & eth3 (in diff instances) and nothing seemed to work.

Also, i'm using Kong's latest build of v24-K3_AC_ARM_STD. Let me know if you need anymore info.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
elwood wrote:
Ok, I've been at this all day... I don't seem to have modprobe. There is a modprobe file in proc/sys/kernel but it's 0 bytes. Anyway...

The uml295 shows up as a pantech cd rom but also registers with cdc_ether as seen below...



My fault, dd-wrt has not implemented modprobe - uses insmod for loading modules. Check with lsmod that both cdc_ether and usbnet are loaded, otherwise insmod missing ones.

Your dmesg log shows a new device being created:

cdc_ether 1-2:1.0 eth3: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:0a.1-2, CDC Ethernet
Device, d0:57:85:fe:c0:54

so check with ifconfig that it is listed there.
If it isn't "up and running" then:
ifconfig eth3 up

I don't know if ULM295 will give a fixed ip address on the eth3 device or if you have to pull one using dhcp but ifconfig will show you if that is needed.

elwood wrote:
I've tried with WAN settings on DHCP, iphone, and mobile broadband. As well as setting wan tags to ppp0 & eth3 (in diff instances) and nothing seemed to work.


Set it to Disabled while you are doing manual test.
Mobile Broadband is wrong in any case since UML295 is an ethernet adapter and is not handled as a dialup modem. IPhone tether is also wrong.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had to force eth3 up. There's no IP assigned to it...

Code:
eth3      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr D0:57:85:FE:C0:54
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:5 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:3670 (3.5 KiB)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
elwood wrote:
I had to force eth3 up. There's no IP assigned to it...



ok, so now with eth3 being up and WAN selection in the gui as "Disabled" then what happens if you do:

udhcpc -i eth3

does ifconfig show an ip address for eth3 now?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 18:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOM wrote:
elwood wrote:
I had to force eth3 up. There's no IP assigned to it...



ok, so now with eth3 being up and WAN selection in the gui as "Disabled" then what happens if you do:

udhcpc -i eth3

does ifconfig show an ip address for eth3 now?


I'll try this later when i get home. If it does grab an IP what do i need to do after, if anything?

I appreciate the help Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 18:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you get an ip address with dhcp then you can do:

nvram set wan_ifname2 = eth3
nvram commit
reboot

After booting change WAN selection in the gui to "DHCP automatic configuration" and you should get connected.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 18:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOM wrote:
If you get an ip address with dhcp then you can do:

nvram set wan_ifname2 = eth3
nvram commit
reboot

After booting change WAN selection in the gui to "DHCP automatic configuration" and you should get connected.


Thanks. Now, i notice when i've rebooted in the past that cdc_ether and usbnet were no longer loaded. Is there an insmod switch to load them automatically or do i have to create a script? nvram commit after loading them?

Sorry, I'm quite a noob. ;x
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes it is possible to add the cmds into a startup script but that comes later, there's no use in making a script before you have confirmed that the cmds work when entered manually.

So, did you get an ip address when doing udhcpc -i eth3 ?

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