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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 18:26    Post subject: Linksys WRT1900AC/Marvell support Reply with quote
Now, I realise it's probably waaay to early to ask, but just out of curiosity - will anyone be looking at this beauty: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2014/01/linksys-wrt/ ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 19:37    Post subject: Reply with quote
0u0 i want. yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 19:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.linksys.com/en-us/wrt-wireless-router

just watch the video. im as excited as the nintendo 64 kid.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 20:22    Post subject: Re: Linksys WRT1900AC Reply with quote
theH wrote:
Now, I realise it's probably waaay to early to ask, but just out of curiosity - will anyone be looking at this beauty: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2014/01/linksys-wrt/ ?


Very expensive. I doubt any user will donate one so we can add support for it. Not sure if BS is in touch with Belkin, but neither Linksys or Belkin ever contacted me. The dd-wrt support for current Linksys units is really bad, not much testing done on these units.

I'm curious about the OpenWRT support though, as the article does not mention the SOC. OpenWRT can't/couldn't add support for Broadcom AC units for now, as they don't have drivers they can compile on their kernels.

Thus might be a unit with atheros wireless radios. If it is, then tomato support will be even further away, as they currently don't have arm support along with broadcom wireless.

I don't see any real benefit over the R7000 now, the 2x1,2Ghz compared to the 2x1Ghz is not a big deal, the rest of the specs are identical.

The big advantage of the R7000 is, that I invested lots of time in adding support for it + even more time testing wireless etc.

All major issues solved and for me running 100% stable now. I fear by the time the Linksys hits the market, the R7000 is half the price and still much better in terms of stability:-)

Thus from a users perspective right now.

Asus AC68U is the best unit if you want to be able to play with firmwares. RMerlin does a great job if it comes to power up the stock firmware. Tomato might be able to support the AC68U soon. DD-WRT support for it is good.

R7000 is the best unit for DD-WRT right now. Since it is the unit that powers my home and I have a few people around that get really mad if they can't get online.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 21:30    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Kong >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2083993/linksys-announces-the-audacious-looking-wrt1900ac-dual-band-wi-fi-router.html

they mentioned the openWRT SDK for the router in there. curious, but did other companies like asus and netgear do the same?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 22:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
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@Kong >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2083993/linksys-announces-the-audacious-looking-wrt1900ac-dual-band-wi-fi-router.html

they mentioned the openWRT SDK for the router in there. curious, but did other companies like asus and netgear do the same?


The SDK thing sounds bad to me, why would we need an SDK from them if it is an open platform. Thus I don't really trust this openness. You see, there was no code SDK etc. for the netgear necessary and it is good this way. Netgear still has wireless and qos problems, relying on them would mean we would be just as bad or good:-)

I really doubt, that they will deliver source code to the wireless part.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 22:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
That article also says its a Marvell chipset. Dd-wrt does not support it. Yet...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 22:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That article also says its a Marvell chipset. Dd-wrt does not support it. Yet...


why?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 23:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
Then it might be this one:

http://www.marvell.com/wireless/avastar/88W8764/

Well that means it will take a while until you see DD-WRT support for it. Who knows if it supports all modes and if there will be source code for the driver.

In any case until you see stable releases for these new wireless chips it will take some time, not sure if this will make these units a success.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 23:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
i still dont get it.

what i want to know is, what is keeping the dd-wrt devs from making a working firmware for marvell based routers? does marvell have no linux drivers at all? closed source? more of a pain than broadcom?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 0:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i still dont get it.

what i want to know is, what is keeping the dd-wrt devs from making a working firmware for marvell based routers? does marvell have no linux drivers at all? closed source? more of a pain than broadcom?

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Why should we add support for marvell if there are only ~1-3 routers out there with a marvell radio. LOL

I know exactly one router with a marvell radio: WNR854T
The radio part is not supported in any 3rd party fw.

There are probably a few more routers out there with a marvel radio, but at least I don't know any of them while I can name at least 20 routers with a broadcom or atheros radio without looking it up:-)

Belkin has to put effort into this to get Opensource support for it, just saying hey we give out an SDK with binary blobs + a router is not really attractive if this thing uses a marvell radio. The other thing is their own firmware will need time too, thus might be buggy for a long time.

But lets stop guessing we will probably get more info soon, lets not bash this new router before it is out.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 0:41    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Malachi @kong

so then why do you say "yet..." kong says that the reason why dd-wrt does not support marvell based routers is because there is a small number?

i was friggin hyped for the wrt1900ac, but now i feel disappointment with doubt.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 0:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not exactly sure why. Linksys e4200v2. ea3500, ea4500 among some of the Marvell chipset routers that didn't get supported.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
Malachi wrote:
Not exactly sure why. Linksys e4200v2. ea3500, ea4500 among some of the Marvell chipset routers that didn't get supported.


some? so then your saying that there is at least some routers that were supported and some that werent. i thought dd-wrt does not support ANY marvell chipset based routers.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poorly worded. I meant those are some of the routers that I know of that have Marvell chipset.
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