Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 60 Location: North Germany
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:53 Post subject: TOR implementation in DD-WRT? [Feature request]
Hy folks,
sometimes its better to browse a littel bite anonym through the net. And TOR is a very good Proxy service that provides you this anonymity. So it would be great if the TOR client should be integrated to DD-WRT.
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Using Tor can help you anonymize web browsing and publishing, instant messaging, IRC, SSH, and other applications that use the TCP protocol.
And now the poll to see how many people are interessted in a TOR integration. That can be done by Brainsalyer directly oder someone of the superusers can create a package inluding a webinterface compatible to DD-WRT
Regards,
Spontex _________________ WHR-HP-G300N
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I have TOR installed on my desktop, and I can see the advantages of anonymous browsing, but I don't want it on all the time, because of the decrease in speed. And going into my router every time to switch it on and off, no thanks. Now I can just click on my tor-button in FF whenever I feel I need it or don't
Now I'll throw you the most extreme case in theory:
Someone downloads child porn or other very illegal stuff trough TOR. As TOR implies, only exit node of TOR is seen to the 'internet', thus it makes that exit node to seem downloading that sick stuff from inet and then government or so wants to hang that person owning that particular exit-node.
While TOR does provide anonymity for the person requesting an data trough the network, there are allways one "end-node" that will actually download the data. While we can argue about dots and perioids here, we still can throw in the question is end-node then responsible about it or not, or is it the start-node?
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 60 Location: North Germany
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:05 Post subject:
Blackraven wrote:
I have TOR installed on my desktop, and I can see the advantages of anonymous browsing, but I don't want it on all the time, because of the decrease in speed. And going into my router every time to switch it on and off, no thanks. Now I can just click on my tor-button in FF whenever I feel I need it or don't
Hum? When the TOR proxy runs on your Router there is no difference if its running on your desktop.
Yes, i use the foxyproxy plugin for Firefox too. And so its the same... when you want to use TOR you activate the proxy over the plugin or its done automatic by your rules. When the TOR proxy runs on your Router the advantage is that any client in your network can use it.
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 60 Location: North Germany
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:19 Post subject:
olmari wrote:
Now I'll throw you the most extreme case in theory:
Someone downloads child porn or other very illegal stuff trough TOR. As TOR implies, only exit node of TOR is seen to the 'internet', thus it makes that exit node to seem downloading that sick stuff from inet and then government or so wants to hang that person owning that particular exit-node.
Yes, i know these objections and that are my too. But everything a user does inside the TOR network is logged by the TOR servers. In Germany we had such a case last month and the server operators can show these logs and nothing happened to them.
TOR provides anonymity but its no black box for doing criminal things like downloading child porn or other very illegal stuff. _________________ WHR-HP-G300N
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But everything a user does inside the TOR network is logged by the TOR servers. In Germany we had such a case last month and the server operators can show these logs and nothing happened to them.
TOR provides anonimity but its no black box for doing criminal things like downloading child porn or other very illegal stuff.
Okay so what would then be the point of TOR anymore if it ultimately is not anonym?
Individuals use Tor to keep websites from tracking them and their family members, or to connect to news sites, instant messaging services, or the like when these are blocked by their local Internet providers. Tor's hidden services let users publish web sites and other services without needing to reveal the location of the site. Individuals also use Tor for socially sensitive communication: chat rooms and web forums for rape and abuse survivors, or people with illnesses.
Journalists use Tor to communicate more safely with whistleblowers and dissidents. Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) use Tor to allow their workers to connect to their home website while they're in a foreign country, without notifying everybody nearby that they're working with that organization.
Groups such as Indymedia recommend Tor for safeguarding their members' online privacy and security. Activist groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) are supporting Tor's development as a mechanism for maintaining civil liberties online. Corporations use Tor as a safe way to conduct competitive analysis, and to protect sensitive procurement patterns from eavesdroppers. They also use it to replace traditional VPNs, which reveal the exact amount and timing of communication. Which locations have employees working late? Which locations have employees consulting job-hunting websites? Which research divisions are communicating with the company's patent lawyers?
A branch of the U.S. Navy uses Tor for open source intelligence gathering, and one of its teams used Tor while deployed in the Middle East recently. Law enforcement uses Tor for visiting or surveilling web sites without leaving government IP addresses in their web logs, and for security during sting operations.
The variety of people who use Tor is actually part of what makes it so secure. Tor hides you among the other users on the network, so the more populous and diverse the user base for Tor is, the more your anonymity will be protected.
_________________ WHR-HP-G300N
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Hum? When the TOR proxy runs on your Router there is no difference if its running in your desktop. ...
When the TOR proxy runs on your Router the advantage is that any client in your network can use it.
I don't know if the linux version uses the same amount of memory, but on my XP Tor uses 12,6 MB and Privoxy 3,5 MB of memory, the memory on my WRT is already filled to the brim, so I'm really interested to see if your request will make it. It is indeed a nifty feature if you could let all your clients to use it w/o installing it on the desktops itself.
Yes, i know these objections and that are my too. But everything a user does inside the TOR network is logged by the TOR servers. In Germany we had such a case last month and the server operators can show these logs and nothing happened to them.
As far as i know this is not fully true. Of course the tor-application and the tor-servers generate logfiles. But in these logfiles no information is stored about where a "request" came from. So German authorities where only able to see that the traffic came from the TOR Network and that the Server Operator is not the "bad guy".
I see its been a while since the last post, but I did a google search for 'tor dd-wrt' and this was one of the first 10 hits.
That said, I'm sure there are plenty of people who would want to contribute to tor by running a server but, for whatever reason, don't.
but it's a good way to anonymity!
or don't