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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2026 12:09    Post subject: Banning all US routers? Reply with quote
I would like to get EVERYONES thoughts on the FCC desicion to ban all NEW routers in the US.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2026 12:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought only routers manufactured in the U.S. would be approved?
I heard they're supposed to play the American national anthem when the modem dials in.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2026 13:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
I thought only routers manufactured in the U.S. would be approved?
I heard they're supposed to play the American national anthem when the modem dials in.


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FCC Updates Covered List to Include Foreign-Made Consumer Routers

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-278A1.pdf

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-286A1.pdf

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2026 17:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
The people behind this nonsense are going to realize that all the vendors that make up the backbone of the Internet in the USA are multinational companies and that they might just break the Internet and we'll have to switch to AX.25 or NPB or bring back dial-up... oh, wait. No, we won't have any options since most every manufacturing plant for electronics is outside the USA.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2026 17:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
Haha i also read it few days ago, no idea how that is going to work...but yep numbers of nonsense's ever since...lets see how far it will go...its a cats and mouse game...no insurance at all as lots of firmware is made in Pakistan/India/China anyway...well OpenWRT does some firmwares too...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2026 19:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
That is part of the underlying thing. No firmware is 100% USA-developed. No *NIX-type OS that is used for embedded platforms is, either. Maybe that is why der Drumpf wants to buy Canada and Greenland.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 16:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 0:33    Post subject: Re: Banning all US routers? Reply with quote
Harb1 wrote:
I would like to get EVERYONES thoughts on the FCC desicion to ban all NEW routers in the US.


We're going to be F***ed. People are going to be buying old router hardware that's going to be unsupported in a year when they also ban firmware updates of the pre ban routers.

I'd suggest stockpiling whatever current good router hardware will run DDWRT/OpenWRT cause that's the only way you're going to be staying updated against future attacks.

There's currently only a single US based manufacturer of consumer routers, Starlink. Currently they only make routers for the Starlink dish. It probably wouldn't be hard for them to transition to making a general purpose router, but even if they did their routers don't have much in the way of advanced features and are closed. I'm not aware of anyone that's attempted or been successful at running DDWRT or OpenWRT on a Starlink router.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 3:39    Post subject: Reply with quote
Only the "terminals" are manufactured in Bastrop, TX. The routers are made in Taiwan. At least that is the last I knew regarding Starlink. All of my licensing is good for long enough to set up the post-apocalyptic scenario unless I get caught up in any blast radius of a strategic target. Bring on the 1200 baud / 500kb/s phat rips of bandwidth.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2026 1:27    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
Only the "terminals" are manufactured in Bastrop, TX. The routers are made in Taiwan. At least that is the last I knew regarding Starlink. All of my licensing is good for long enough to set up the post-apocalyptic scenario unless I get caught up in any blast radius of a strategic target. Bring on the 1200 baud / 500kb/s phat rips of bandwidth.


My Starlink Gen 2 router says made in the USA on the bottom.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2026 6:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
d0ug wrote:
kernel-panic69 wrote:
Only the "terminals" are manufactured in Bastrop, TX. The routers are made in Taiwan. At least that is the last I knew regarding Starlink. All of my licensing is good for long enough to set up the post-apocalyptic scenario unless I get caught up in any blast radius of a strategic target. Bring on the 1200 baud / 500kb/s phat rips of bandwidth.


My Starlink Gen 2 router says made in the USA on the bottom.


but where the firmware was made...Pakistan, India...China... Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2026 16:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll go with "Assembled in USA" regarding the routers. All of the electronics have mostly been manufactured in Taiwan, hence the diversification to Vietnam and elsewhere in Asia at Musk's bidding due to tensions with China. I know they did an expansion at the plant in Bastrop, but 100% direct proof seems to be elusive. For all we know, they could be making WMDs in Bastrop.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2026 14:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is the why.

This mentions TP-Link specifically.
Justice Department Conducts Court-Authorized Disruption of DNS Hijacking Network Controlled by a Russian Military Intelligence Unit

Russian Spies Used Americans’ Routers to Intercept Data - FBI Just Cut Them Off

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2026 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote
"We admit the mishandling of classified information by citizens, military members, and foreign nationals due to compromised consumer equipment accessing DoD assets"... that's what those articles sound like they are saying without specifically saying it. And the thing is, I am thinking it's not *just* TP-Link. How many ISPs are using modems, ONTs, etc. that are compliant or possibly suspect? I was looking to see if I had taken any previous screenshots of information off of my ISP modem/router to see if there has been any firmware updates since I changed providers in the process of the move to the current location and came up short.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2026 21:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
in general lots of ISP equipment is set it forget it abandon its updates...or even if any they are rare or not fixing any shit...that why i and lots of members around are using their own units wherever its possible...no idea why 70-80% of ISP are unhappy if you use your own stuff..but it is what it is...diesel price is insane... Laughing
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