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lepa71
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 0:40    Post subject: MX4300 - Wireless Bridge? Reply with quote
Can I set it up as simple wireless media bridge mode?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think you need to provide much more details here if you expect an answer. What is "wireless media bridge mode"?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
lexridge wrote:
I think you need to provide much more details here if you expect an answer. What is "wireless media bridge mode"?


I have a TV with poor wireless connectivity, but it has USB3 port and I have a dongle USB to RJ45, so I bought a Linksys 4300 but it does not support a native wireless bridge so I can wirelessly connect to the main AP and then connect my TV via ethernet cable to 4300 lan port. So I'm wondering if I install DD-WR can I do that?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
Somehow, I doubt a USB ethernet dongle is going to work on your smart TV simply because the USB port is usually for a peripheral (keyboard, mouse) or flash drive. Might be better off improving wireless coverage.
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lepa71
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
Somehow, I doubt a USB ethernet dongle is going to work on your smart TV simply because the USB port is usually for a peripheral (keyboard, mouse) or flash drive. Might be better off improving wireless coverage.


I have 2 of those. They do work. I have another TV running this setup. I have 2 Asus AX3000 running RMerlin fw in that configuration. That router has a native wireless media bridge mode.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
Might be better off improving wireless coverage.


It think It is the wireless card is going bad on this TV. Nothing to do with coverage.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
If the TV has a RJ45 jack, this could be easily made to work. But as @KP69 said, with only a USB port, probably not.

In fact, I am doing exactly the same thing in my livingroom with a EA8500 WDS Station inside my audio rack with the TV above it on the wall. WDS is the way to go, not a wireless bridge. But WDS only works between alike SoCs. Your WDS AP would need to be Atheros as well. Please verify:

1. TV has a RJ45 Jack (most do but may be in a not so obvious place)
2. Other router is Atheros.

If both are YES, then this will work.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know it works because I tested it. I just had to buy another router. I did not want to pay $100 for AX3000. 4300 was $15 RJ4 on this tv is limited to 100Mbps. I have 350/25 Mbps internet. I have done DD-WR a long time ago before switching to RMerlin's fw. I also used a Tomatto fw but 4300 is not supported.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
All my TVs are only 100Mb Ethernet as well, and that is plenty fast enough even for 4K.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 21:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
lexridge wrote:
All my TVs are only 100Mb Ethernet as well, and that is plenty fast enough even for 4K.


Either way, I would need a wireless media bridge or whatever terminology DD-WR uses. I think it used to be called wireless client???
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 22:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's called Station and Station Bridge (Routed) in dd-wrt, under Radio Mode. As I said earlier, if your main router is Atheros, use WDS. It is by FAR much better!

Using Station or Station Bridge Routed, you are probably not going to do any better than 100Mb/s anyway, but with WDS, you will, on the backhaul anyway. Even 802.11s could be a better option than Station/station bridge if your other router supports it. I don't think the chipsets need to be the same for 802.11s. Something you could look at anyway.

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- Linksys EA8500: I-Gateway, AP/VAP 5ghz only r57753: Features: WDS-AP, VLANs, Samba, WG, Entware
- Linksys EA8500: WDS Station x2 - r57753
- Netgear R6400v2: WAP/VAP 2.4ghz only w/VLANs over single trunk port. r57753
- Linksys MX4300 (WAP/VAP (7)) - r58244: Features in use: multiple VLANs over single trunk port
- Linksys MR7350: Testing r58244
- Linksys Velop WHW03v1 x2: OpenWRT w/GRETAP tunnel for VLANs on VAPs
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 22:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
lexridge wrote:
It's called Station and Station Bridge (Routed) in dd-wrt, under Radio Mode. As I said earlier, if your main router is Atheros, use WDS. It is by FAR much better!

Using Station or Station Bridge Routed, you are probably not going to do any better than 100Mb/s anyway, but with WDS, you will, on the backhaul anyway. Even 802.11s could be a better option than Station/station bridge if your other router supports it. I don't think the chipsets need to be the same for 802.11s. Something you could look at anyway.


Is WDS secure? It used to be not. I have been out from DD-WR for a while.
Can I specify wifi bands to use? My SSIDs( 2.4 and 5) are separated.

ps. Asus is not atheros. It is Broadcom .
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 22:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, WDS is secure as any wifi and uses WPA2 and/or WPA3 AES encryption and can be used over either 2.4 or 5ghz bands. Here is the dd-wrt Wiki for WDS.
https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_Linked_router_network

Skip step 4a and any others that reference the wlanN-WDS pages. This is wrong and you will not need to do that.

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- Linksys EA8500: WDS Station x2 - r57753
- Netgear R6400v2: WAP/VAP 2.4ghz only w/VLANs over single trunk port. r57753
- Linksys MX4300 (WAP/VAP (7)) - r58244: Features in use: multiple VLANs over single trunk port
- Linksys MR7350: Testing r58244
- Linksys Velop WHW03v1 x2: OpenWRT w/GRETAP tunnel for VLANs on VAPs
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 22:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, so your main AP is Broadcom. WDS will not work then. Sorry, I missed that earlier.

EDIT: You could still try 802.11s. I have not tried between broadcom<>atheros, but I did recently post a 802.11s how-to in the Advanced Networking section of this forum. Maybe give that a try. I tossed all my Broadcom routers in the closet. Not a fan! lol

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- Linksys EA8500: I-Gateway, AP/VAP 5ghz only r57753: Features: WDS-AP, VLANs, Samba, WG, Entware
- Linksys EA8500: WDS Station x2 - r57753
- Netgear R6400v2: WAP/VAP 2.4ghz only w/VLANs over single trunk port. r57753
- Linksys MX4300 (WAP/VAP (7)) - r58244: Features in use: multiple VLANs over single trunk port
- Linksys MR7350: Testing r58244
- Linksys Velop WHW03v1 x2: OpenWRT w/GRETAP tunnel for VLANs on VAPs
- OSes: Fedora 39, 9 RPis (2,3,4,5), 20 ESP8266s: Straight from Amiga to Linux in '95, never having owned a Windows PC.

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Last edited by lexridge on Tue Oct 01, 2024 22:27; edited 1 time in total
lepa71
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 22:24    Post subject: Reply with quote
lexridge wrote:
Yes, WDS is secure as any wifi and uses WPA2 and/or WPA3 AES encryption and can be used over either 2.4 or 5ghz bands. Here is the dd-wrt Wiki for WDS.
https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_Linked_router_network

Skip step 4a and any others that reference the wlanN-WDS pages. This is wrong and you will not need to do that.


I don't know if you saw it but Asus is a Broadcom based.
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