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tkoyn
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 15:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
To summarize, I understand there are currently only three AX devices supported by DD-WRT with one more coming soon.

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Linksys MR7350        2/5 Ghz dual band    Gigabit ports only
Linksys MX4200        2/5/5 Ghz tri band   Gigabit ports only
Dynalink WRX36        2/5 Ghz dual band    One 2.5GB WAN port
Asus RT-AX89X (soon)  2/5 Ghz dual band    Two 10gb WAN port


This means no Wifi 6E (6Ghz) or Wifi 7 devices and limited multigig Ethernet devices.

Would like to see the highest end ASUS routers added such as GT-AXE 16000 and RT-BE96U.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 15:19    Post subject: Reply with quote
Check recent release (57595) downloads folder. There's more than just those four, and RT-AX89X is in active support and development.
Sorry, I am only one person, some folks' help is not very helpful, and life takes precedence over building wikis, adding information, or
edits. Also, if you want to see a device supported, open new thread and send a hardware donation. Take care now.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 15:52    Post subject: Reply with quote
tkoyn wrote:
Would like to see the highest end ASUS routers added such as GT-AXE 16000 and RT-BE96U.


Won't happen as these are both Broadcom routers.
And the RT-AX89X does not have 2x 10Gbit WAN ports but a 10GBase-T and a 10G SFP+ port ... you can use them for whatever you want.

And what is so high end about the routers? they also have low power B53 CPUS
You'll quickly realize that they can't manage 10Gbit without tricks ...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 16:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for that, @ho1Aetoo. I didn't chase that rabbit down the hole. Yes, no Broadcom AX Wifi6/6E/7 support will happen in DD-WRT. Seems even the old crowd is oblivious to this. Adding link to this part of the thread for the sticky, knowing both will likely be ignored, because reasons.

https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/ASUS_RT-BE96U
https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/ASUS_GT-AXE16000

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
Check recent release (57595) downloads folder. There's more than just those four...

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PolitePol is throwing the error "Downloaded. Not json: Parser client error: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused." and I do not use RSS.

ho1Aetoo wrote:
And what is so high end about the routers? they also have low power B53 CPUS
You'll quickly realize that they can't manage 10Gbit without tricks ...
What high end routers are candidates for DD-WRT? By high end, I mean must have at least Wifi 6E (or 7), Ethernet ports must be at least 2.5GB, and hardware resources must provide the performance.

kernel-panic69 wrote:
no Broadcom AX Wifi6/6E/7 support will happen in DD-WRT.
Are there any Wifi 6E or Wifi 7 (non-Broadcom) routers that actually are realistic candidates for DD-WRT?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 20:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
Even the much larger OpenWRT project supports virtually no Wifi 7 or 6E devices with the exception of.

https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/7e7eb5312d7810084547bb54a4b6867c2da08182

https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/6cc14bf66aa924962b926ea9702b6153ae418a7d

both Mediatek based.

Otherwise, there are only a few powerful multigigabit routers:

https://openwrt.org/inbox/toh/sinovoip/bananapi_bpi-r4
https://openwrt.org/toh/iei/puzzle-m902

But you can always buy or assemble an x86.
With a powerful processor and the right network cards, x86 can also manage 100Gbit

Note: you will probably have to wait several more years.
I also had to wait 1.5 years for the dynalink

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 21:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://download1.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/betas/ <--- same location that it's been for some time ... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 13:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
Even the much larger OpenWRT project supports virtually no Wifi 7 or 6E devices with the exception of.

https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/7e7eb5312d7810084547bb54a4b6867c2da08182

https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/6cc14bf66aa924962b926ea9702b6153ae418a7d

both Mediatek based.


Thinking about upgrading from 4 Netgear R7800s to 802.11ax-capable access points, I stumbled upon the question of whether it makes sense to wait for DD-WRT/OpenWRT support for Wi-Fi 6E. What is the reason that makes porting DD-WRT/OpenWRT to a 6E router (e.g. something with the QCN9074 (ath11k) so much more difficult than to an Atheros-based Wi-Fi 6 router?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 13:51    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't know.
But it was/is not easy to port the Qualcomm wifi 6 devices.

The new chips and CPUs have security functions that are partially activated, such as "secure boot".
This makes it difficult to start a different firmware, for example.

https://lineageos.org/engineering/Qualcomm-Firmware/

In addition, Qualcomm has assigned some developers to work on the required upstream support.
However, this usually takes a very long time before the drivers can even be used properly.
Someone once told me that the new WLAN modules only work on the Qualcomm reference boards but nowhere else.

First of all, the Qualcomm reference boards are extremely expensive:

https://techship.com/product/compex-hk01-embedded-board/?variant=003

so that practically no developer has them and the modules only work on Qualcomm hardware for the time being and nowhere else.
(not on the existing boards, not in x86s etc.)

This makes it difficult to develop drivers and software if you don't own the overpriced hardware.

I'm sure one of the opensource developers can explain this to you.
I am just a simple user.

By the way, the dynalink dl-wrx36 also has an activated bootfuse (they seem to have found a way around it)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 18:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
I don't know.
But it was/is not easy to port the Qualcomm wifi 6 devices.

Thank you very, very much for this information. I was not aware of large parts of this!

It helps me to decide on a couple of Wi-Fi 6 devices, most probably Dynalink DL-WRX36. Maybe we should think about crowdfunding of devel boards for the OSS devs to make Wi-Fi 6E and perspectively Wi-Fi 7 on OSS routers to become true one day.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 15:21    Post subject: Barriers to moving DD-WRT forward to AX routers Reply with quote
Yes, this is extremely informative--thanks to all.

While I really regret that DD-WRT may not move ahead to WiFi 6/AX I can see the barriers to this much better now.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 21:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
The GL.iNet GL-MT6000 (Flint 2) is (yet another) currently unsupported MediaTek SoC that will probably not see support if nobody donates the hardware.


https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=335858&highlight=

https://forum.gl-inet.com/t/donating-gl-mt6000-for-getting-dd-wrt/38056/2

just contact them and they will help you receive a GL-MT6000!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 21:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
It doesn't matter. There is no interest in MediaTek AX devices at present due to the ongoing issues with the radio chipset firmware blobs. As already stated in two places, procure one and send it to the developer.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 15:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
Coming soon: Buffalo WXR-5950AX12, Buffalo WXR-6000AX12*.
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