WTB: Router w/10 Gpbs Copper WAN port

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brutaldeath
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:23    Post subject: WTB: Router w/10 Gpbs Copper WAN port Reply with quote
Hello,
I'm here to find a new routeur following an update of my internet box =)

I'm now able to download at 10Gpbs and I research a routeur with 10G Copper WAN port and 10G Copper or fiber LAN port (LAN port is just for switch) OR a multiple 10G port on routeur (4 mini)

Compatible with Wifi 6/7 and (of course) DD-WRT, Wiregard etc, etc

I actually have a Netgear R7000

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:41    Post subject: Reply with quote
Consider x86 mini PC with at least intel n100 CPU, you can run DDWRT on x86
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
should be very limited with an N100
The processor provides a maximum of 9x PCIe 3.0 lanes with a maximum throughput of ~8.9GB/sec
However, some of these lanes are already required for other things such as NVME or SATA and other components / network ports.

At least 4 lanes are required for 2x 10Gbit alone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#Comparison_table
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/231803/intel-processor-n100-6m-cache-up-to-3-40-ghz/specifications.html

https://tpucdn.com/cpu-specs/images/connectivity/intel-soc-adl-n.png


I only know these Mini-PCs:

https://www.gowinfanless.com/uncategorised/gw-r86s-g-series/gw-r86s-g3

In theory, 7 lanes would have to be used for the network ports alone.

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brutaldeath
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 13:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is there no router already made like the Netgear R7000 but with 10G ports?

This mini computeur have only 2.5G port.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 13:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
This mini computeur have only 2.5G port.


because it's all chinese garbage and the chinese can't create proper websites.
The routers are also available with 10Gbit SFP+ ports see>

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004182425248.html
https://www.amazon.de/MNBOXCONET-Firewall-Appliance-Support-OPNsense-N100-10GbE/dp/B0D1VJSHWL?th=1

Quote:
Is there no router already made like the Netgear R7000 but with 10G ports?


Yes there is:

https://www.asus.com/networking-iot-servers/wifi-routers/asus-gaming-routers/rt-ax89x/

Can it route 10Gbit? no CPU too slow

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Quickstart guides:
use Pi-Hole as simple DNS-Server with DD-WRT
VLAN configuration via GUI - 1 CPU port
VLAN configuration via GUI - 2 CPU ports (R7800, EA8500 etc)

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Qualcomm IPQ8065 - R7800 - DD-WRT - WAP
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 17:26    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.qotom.net/product/list-61.html
https://www.cappuccinopc.com/Machine-vision-PC/9th-Gen-i7-fanless-mini-pc-with-Dual-10G-SFP-Fiber-Optic-LANs.asp
https://www.servethehome.com/minisforum-ms-01-review-the-10gbe-with-pcie-slot-mini-pc-intel/
https://eu.protectli.com/vault-6-port/

I just spent few min web search.. Cool
Im not experienced with any of those, performance capabilities..

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brutaldeath
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 19:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
What about this ? : TP-Link Archer BE800

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CG1QQZ9Z?m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&tag=idealofr-ysm1-21&ascsubtag=2024-08-23_ea6a427d23b0218040ee4c19eb69d2686c7e4571f5daf7a76b8426f1170b8606&th=1&psc=1
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 19:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
brutaldeath wrote:
What about this ? : TP-Link Archer BE800

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CG1QQZ9Z?m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96&tag=idealofr-ysm1-21&ascsubtag=2024-08-23_ea6a427d23b0218040ee4c19eb69d2686c7e4571f5daf7a76b8426f1170b8606&th=1&psc=1


as this is TP-Link it will run TP-link software more likely...and its not a PC either...
So, for running DDWRT on it, donation would be necessary Cool Laughing than it may not get over the moon that quick...if support happens at all... Rolling Eyes

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TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 58730 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
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Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 58785 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 58689 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Dynalink DL-WRX36-DDWRT 58785
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NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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Stubby DNS over TLS I DNSCrypt v2 by mac913
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 21:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
My Netgear R7000 is not a PC too . So I never have make a donation for install DDWRT on it
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 22:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
Because one was already donated (actually probably two) before you came to the party, most likely. The TP-Link BE800 is a currently unsupported Qualcomm IPQ SoC. Donation required for the developer to port it. Probably easiest to see if it is available via Amazon.de to alleviate any customs issues.

https://dd-wrt.com/donations/

https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/TP-LINK_Archer_BE800

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is a Qualcomm Wifi7 device.
No Wifi7 devices are currently supported.
Adding support can take years.

And the processor only manages 10Gbit under certain conditions.
If your ISP uses PPPoE encapsulation then this processor will not be able to handle 10Gbit either (without any NSS tricks)

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Quickstart guides:
use Pi-Hole as simple DNS-Server with DD-WRT
VLAN configuration via GUI - 1 CPU port
VLAN configuration via GUI - 2 CPU ports (R7800, EA8500 etc)

Routers
Marvell OCTEON TX2 - QHora-322 - OpenWrt 23.05.3 - Gateway
Qualcomm IPQ8065 - R7800 - DD-WRT - WAP
brutaldeath
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 18:52    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks all for your reply

So if I resume

No Wifi 7 devices are currently supported
No 10Gb standard routeur with 10G port can route 10Gpbs
Make donation !!

Exact ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
brutaldeath wrote:
Thanks all for your reply

So if I resume

No Wifi 7 devices are currently supported
No 10Gb standard routeur with 10G port can route 10Gpbs
Make donation !!

Exact ?


Yep, no WIFI 7 support so far...DDWRT is currently on WIFI 6 W.I.P. and the opensource wifi binaries are still on WIFI 5 or WIFI 6 standards...no idea how quick WIFI 7 will come across, it may take years...same for WIFI 7 clients implementation...pretty much the same is for 10Gbit/s pipe, although its coming quickly, its not very common as well clients side must be able to handle it and hardware must be capable of too...CPU, ram, pipes and ect.
As far as donation is required...as the other members 've said, the main and only developer Brain Slayer (BS) must have his hands on it, in order to understand the architecture and be able to port it, not to mention that, porting must be bound with existing open source binaries and other hacks...so, even a quick donation may not match you expectations...so, no rush and better get in connection and discuss the donation before rush it... Laughing

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TP-Link WR740Nv1 ---DD-WRT 58184 WAP
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 58730 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -Gargoyle OS 1.15.x AP,DNS,QoS,Quotas
Qualcomm-Atheros
Netgear XR500 --DD-WRT 58694 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,AP Isolation,4VLAN,Ad-Block,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 58785 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 58689 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Dynalink DL-WRX36-DDWRT 58785
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 --DD-WRT 58627 Gateway/SmartDNS/DoT,AD-Block,IPsetFirewall,Forced DNS,x3VLAN,VPN
NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
------------------------------------------------------
Stubby DNS over TLS I DNSCrypt v2 by mac913
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