Possible wiki update needed for DDNS

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yoyoma2
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:31    Post subject: Possible wiki update needed for DDNS Reply with quote
This wiki page says to append something to your Hostname for freedns.afraid.org but that doesn't seem to work anymore on r50841 northstar routers (it used to work). TBH I don't know if dd-wrt or freedns.afraid.org changed.

The code warns about unnecessary updates if the cache file is missing. My syslog showed "Update forced for alias" messages every ten minutes with the same correct IP address.

Deleting the extra stuff suggested by the wiki ",What_You_Copied_Before" from the Hostname caused the cache to be created in /tmp/ddns and the repeated forced updates ceased.

If a dd-wrt change caused this, the wiki should probably say to only append the ",What_You_Copied_Before" to the host name for builds before a certain number. People risk having their freedns.afraid.org accounts suspended for excessive unnecessary update requests.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, this is known, in case you haven't noticed - we have updated inadyn to version 2.9.1 in the last few weeks.
There are now 31 supported providers and a lot of changes have been made to the GUI.

The wiki entry for "freedns.afraid.org" is anyway bullshit "What_You_Copied_Before" ... Rolling Eyes

This is the "update key" or token and yes it is no longer needed because inadyn generates it automatically.

User name, password and host - that's all that's needed, for some providers even less.

For example, only the token and host are required for duckdns.

We need more user reports to finish the work - probably not all providers are tested and optimized yet.


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Major update to inadyn: Dynamic DNS client with SSL/TLS support. Please reconfigure also test new DD-WRT beta releases!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 14:03    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the info @ho1Aetoo.

So I guess the wiki needs many updates for for DDNS. The update for freedns.afraid.org is high priority since the settings prior to r50841 cause dd-wrt to abusively make ip address change requests every 10 minutes. A week of doing this abuse (before I noticed) did not result in account suspension. Very Happy I don't know if the address changes were succeeding/failing as my address hadn't actually changed in over a week and nslookup was still reporting the correct address.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 14:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am fine out there since I do not have a wiki account Mr. Green

But KP had written that he will update it when the dust has settled.

https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1275385#1275385

maybe a separate thread would not be bad ...
so that we have an overview of which ddns providers are used and which work.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 14:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
I read freedns.afraid.org TOS a week or so ago while DDns was spamming log with updates.
I saw no mention of repercussions related to frequent updates.

Doesn't necessarily guarantee they wouldn't take such action i guess.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 17:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
....But KP had written that he will update it when the dust has settled.

New Build - 11/09/2022 - r50841 (comment 9) (fixed the link Mr. Green) -kp69

maybe a separate thread would not be bad ...
so that we have an overview of which ddns providers are used and which work.

Yes, now that we currently have (at least) three places discussing wiki updates and/or configuration issues, including this thread now:

Clouflare (free tier) and DDNS settings issue

I concur with having a thread discussing all of this in one place or a separate thread for each provider, OR we can link them all in this thread, I am fine with whatever. There's still a lot of unknowns and I don't have the time nor am I inclined to open accounts with every possible provider, especially if they cost money, to sort this out and test their documentation against DD-WRT implementation, etc. by myself. This is where I'd like to rely on group input and linked information and have a single point of reference to read through, if possible. This needs to be a concerted group effort to contribute to documentation updates in our wiki. Because if we go with some folks' opinion that each thing should be handed over to upstream, then we run into problems because of implementation in DD-WRT may not match upstream's documentation 100% or upstream's documentation is outdated in respect to current development. Just my thoughts.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 17:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
Duck DNS

Track Ticket : DuckDNS works - problems with external IP check.

duiadns.net

duiadns screenshot
Note - you have to use the account password not the md5 hash of the password

DynDNS.org

screenshot - several hostnames can be updated at the same time
Note - the syntax has changed, hostnames must be separated by spaces

DNS-O-Matic

working
but again problems with the external IP check

Dynu Systems

working - account passwort or SHA256

No-IP.com

i have seen several post but they only said it works - no further info

in the "status" description

Cloudflare

topic about cloudlare
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2023 3:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is still on my to-do list. Just wanted to make note of it and bookmark this thread while I was thinking about it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2023 8:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
Unrelated to existing DDNS problems:

It will be interesting for DD-WRT to support 2 or more DDNS providers and/or DDNS entries. This is not a popular feature among all wifi routers.

No-IP.com gives you 3 dynamic domain names free.
ho1Aetoo wrote:
No-IP.com

i have seen several post but they only said it works - no further info

Well, DD-WRT has never failed me, before and after Inadyn 2.9! I have never used its paid mode though.

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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2023 8:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you would inform yourself properly then you would know that with no-ip.com you can group hostnames and update them all at once.

Imagine I also have several hostnames at my DDNS provider and can update them individually or all at once, I just need to use "all" hostname.

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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
If you would inform yourself properly then you would know that with no-ip.com you can group hostnames and update them all at once.

Imagine I also have several hostnames at my DDNS provider and can update them individually or all at once, I just need to use "all" hostname.

Thanks. Will look into that....

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
No-IP.com

i have seen several post but they only said it works - no further info

in the "status" description

Doesn't seem to be working when using External IP check / SSL in wired AP mode (I can't make sense of the discussion completely at the moment):

DDNS update failing (no-ip.com)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 6:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Check-IP server (ip1.dynupdate.no-ip.com) does not support https

http://ip1.dynupdate.no-ip.com
https://ip1.dynupdate.no-ip.com

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 6:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
Configuration is wired AP with external IP check (which is using another IP check server). Feel free to interject in that thread and sort it out. Starting to look like DNS configuration issue now that I've jumped back on the merry-go-round of circular discussion in that thread. Or maybe not. I just quoted your post and edited my last comment in that thread. I think it's just a matter of plain hard-headed non-comprehension of reality. Sorry for the noise. /moving along
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