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blkt
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
Déjà vu...settings never remember history, disable all forms autofill, logins pass, spelling, zero add-ons, extensions, plugins.
Disable suggestions, data collection and disable https-only mode. Network settings disable proxy and disable dns over https.

WebUI: Clear history or use a portable. Temporary cache bypass: Ctrl+F5, Cmd+Shift+R or new private window/incognito.

Those stuck on repeat, broken record copy pasta, feel ignored? You're doing it wrong. Research, review, rewrite, tic-tac-toe.

Detail issues & relevant configs, logs: syslog klog 'dmesg' 'cat /tmp/var/log/messages' nvram set console_debug=1, serial.
Please report findings with steps needed to reproduce, configuration, clients, output, logs and important information below!
• Include operating & wireless modes (e.g. Gateway, Router, AP, SB, WDS, Mesh) and applicable configurations to reproduce.

• Firewall NAT: 'iptables -vnL' 'iptables -t nat -vnL' 'iptables -t mangle -vnL' & 'cat /tmp/.ipt'. Misc: strace tcpdump wireshark.
• Gremlins: reboot. cold boot. Reset & reconfigure not restore backup. Search Trac & discuss in forum before opening tickets.
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the-joker
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:54    Post subject: Reply with quote
shmerl wrote:
Refreshing without cache worked, thanks.


This is basic and browser induced nonsense, DD-WRT doesn't cache anything, does not set any cookies, does not do anything to create these situations, but browser side is another matter.

A good work around is perhaps to tell the browsers never to cache anything DD-WRT side, because by definition they pull data from server and keep local copies because it's faster generally speaking, DD-WRT however is not a regular website, it's not static content, it changes often even if not UI side, it's constantly evolving, local old crap vs new crap clashes and local wins, no matter if right or not.

I use a regular browser with a few addons but they are all disabled DD-WRT side, except one (stylus).

So yep, disable any caching browser side for DD-WRT and it shouldn't happen and force clearing cache shouldn't be needed then.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 15:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
I use watherfox and I only use it to access the router and for update, and I use the following settings

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-clear-firefox-cache

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shmerl
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 16:15    Post subject: Reply with quote
the-joker wrote:
A good work around is perhaps to tell the browsers never to cache anything DD-WRT side, because by definition they pull data from server and keep local copies because it's faster generally speaking, DD-WRT however is not a regular website, it's not static content, it changes often even if not UI side, it's constantly evolving, local old crap vs new crap clashes and local wins, no matter if right or not.


So something like this won't help? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Clear-Site-Data
blkt
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 16:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
Clear-Site-Data is HTTPS only, and Safari will ignore it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 18:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
shmerl wrote:
the-joker wrote:
A good work around is perhaps to tell the browsers never to cache anything DD-WRT side, because by definition they pull data from server and keep local copies because it's faster generally speaking, DD-WRT however is not a regular website, it's not static content, it changes often even if not UI side, it's constantly evolving, local old crap vs new crap clashes and local wins, no matter if right or not.


So something like this won't help? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Clear-Site-Data


Besides what blkt already said and actually expanding on what I said and a to be clearer, the screenshot oliver44 showed is not exactly what I meant. Under cookies and site data Manage exceptions button you add whatever http/s::router-IP and select block. this means that no data should ever be saved locally.

There are a couple of ways to do this https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-websites-storing-cookies-site-data-firefox?redirectslug=Blocking+cookies the way I detailed is my preference.

We already have no cache but we dont have no-store, problem is there is no standard way to do it across all browsers anyway, but most decent browsers should have a way like in Firefox to block local data being saved.

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oliver44
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 13:03    Post subject: Reply with quote
the-joker wrote:
shmerl wrote:
the-joker wrote:
A good work around is perhaps to tell the browsers never to cache anything DD-WRT side, because by definition they pull data from server and keep local copies because it's faster generally speaking, DD-WRT however is not a regular website, it's not static content, it changes often even if not UI side, it's constantly evolving, local old crap vs new crap clashes and local wins, no matter if right or not.


So something like this won't help? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Clear-Site-Data


Besides what blkt already said and actually expanding on what I said and a to be clearer, the screenshot oliver44 showed is not exactly what I meant. Under cookies and site data Manage exceptions button you add whatever http/s::router-IP and select block. this means that no data should ever be saved locally.

There are a couple of ways to do this https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-websites-storing-cookies-site-data-firefox?redirectslug=Blocking+cookies the way I detailed is my preference.

We already have no cache but we dont have no-store, problem is there is no standard way to do it across all browsers anyway, but most decent browsers should have a way like in Firefox to block local data being saved.


@the-joker you meant that I have to do this?

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