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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:25    Post subject: Feature Request - WiFi LED activity options Reply with quote
I know this is a long shot, however it doesn't hurt to ask.

I would like the option to toggle the WiFi activity LED's blinking to ignore beacon frames. As far as I know, this is an option in OpenWrt, so I don't think adding a toggle or pull-down menu would be too difficult.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
It hurts to read, even if it didn't hurt to ask. I left my crystal balls on my other pants.

Why such a bold statement? No router details provided, no DD-WRT version, so no one can help you because we dont know if its even possible for your machine via DD-WRT, no matter what OpenWRT does or not does.

The only way you will be able to do this is router dependent (if it uses GPIOs or not) and via ONLY some sort of script. DD-WRT and OpenWRT dont share much in common source wise, so its not really comparable.

LEDs are not a priority for DD-WRT main developer as they are not critical for normal operations, sadly I also like my LEDs and have issues regarding one of them, only Brainslayer can address this ATM and his priorities are not blinking/on or off lights.

So I suggest you smash some more keys on your keyboard forming some coherent words in order to provide the information necessary.

Your friendly neighborhood Jokerman.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a Netgear R7800, and the blinking happens on any version past r48646.

From what I could see, this was likely a choice that Brainslayer made. This is in reference to the following post :
https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1262724#1262724

I have no experance with working with GPIO's, but from the Wiki it stated the following :
You can't use the GPIO's on Atheros chips (Fonera, Meraki, etc.) without PROC_GPIO or some other utility. PROC_GPIO is a driver, and thus it must be compiled for your specific kernel. Broadcom routers do not need an external driver to drive GPIO's.

With that in mind, I have no idea what I would need to do in order to control the GPIO.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
You answered it yourself, you cant, there is no GPIO for Atheros like there is Brodcom side. Likely your driver is missing to keep the builds small.

I already said LEDs are not a priority.

BS upgrades the drivers, if the new drivers are buggy or change behavior its a different case, and because LEDs aren't a DD-WRT a priority, that's it, as long as the drivers work thats it.

But Atheros drivers are heavily being worked on for different reasons, so keep your ear to the rail and use the latest dd-wrt builds, it could change but not on purpose for this.

LED's are a general a known issue across brands/targets, and until there are meaningful contributions by people who understand this, it will likely remain.

I have y 5GHz LED tuned off permanently a known bug on my HW revision of my router, and I already tried getting it fixed, and its not, but hey... I accepted it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
the-joker wrote:
You answered it yourself, you cant, there is no GPIO for Atheros like there is Brodcom side. Likely your driver is missing to keep the builds small.

I already said LEDs are not a priority.

BS upgrades the drivers, if the new drivers are buggy or change behavior its a different case, and because LEDs aren't a DD-WRT a priority, that's it, as long as the drivers work thats it.

I suspect that DD-WRT had to write its own LED daemon, poll the relevant status of the router timely, then use GPIO to flip-flop those LEDs.

It's possible only if every single router old and new had a dedicated representative to keep track of changes, not to mention the various builds of DD-WRT released for all routers. The combined effort should produce a big table of some sort... should be quite a big one. Well...

I definitely wanna to do it to my RT-N18U. But I agree it's not top priority.

Do you stare at the router's LEDs all the time if everything is ok? Or would you rather look at the status page of DD-WRT? Remember the good old days of internal dial-up modems before the arrival of broadband? Smile

Anyway, there are existing LED scripts. See if they could solve a specific problem:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dd-wrt+led+script

Don't forget to search for "led" and/or "light" in:
https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/search.php?mode=results


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
@mwchang All moot for Atheros, most modern Atheros routers dont use gpios and the necessary modules are not present in DD-WRT.

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/leds-netgear-nighthawk-x4s-r7800/87195/5

But sure have a play with ancient wiki entries and scripts as long as there is no support questions about it when the proverbial shit hits the fan.

OpenWRT has a great deal more code contributors, you can see at their recent commits @ https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commits/master

And as you can see, they all muck in (even LEDS side), while in DD-WRT there's only one dev that understands these devices and develops pretty much the lot.
We want bug fixes, more newer devices support, we want more features, we want, we want, but what we need is more developers.

So patches welcome is what I say.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote
Atheros does (and doesn't) use GPIOs, depending on your perspective. The problem here is that BrainSlayer doesn't have or can't find the GPIO tables for devices he does or doesn't have in his possession, for one. OpenWRT likes to use .dts files and other means to completely ignore GPL'd source code research from stock firmware or overcome lack of GPIO tables.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 18:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
the-joker wrote:
OpenWRT has a great deal more code contributors, you can see at their recent commits @ https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commits/master

Unfortunately, OpenWRT does not want to support Broadcom, especially the 5GHz part. DD-WRT is doing a better job! Smile

[OpenWrt Wiki] Broadcom wireless
https://openwrt.org/meta/infobox/broadcom_wifi

Anyway, WiFi 6, 6E and 7 routers might not hug 3rd-party firmware. Does OpenWRT have a better stand there than DD-WRT? I truly dunno... but with more developers including Kong, maybe OpenWRT could really do everything by itself.

Would OpenWRT change the market shares of various router processors? Leading to a unified open-sourced firmware?? Maybe???

[OpenWrt Wiki] Table of Hardware: Ideal for OpenWrt + 802.11ax supported
https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_available_16128_ax-wifi

And don't forget that some NAS devices are becoming more like powerful routers.

Sort of OT since we were talking about LED scripts. Sorry!! Smile


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 19:24    Post subject: Reply with quote
Most every stock firmware these days is based on some version of OpenWRT's model to some degree, with very few exceptions that I know of. The problem is that they still make it difficult for truly open source support to enable 3rd party projects a little more leverage. BUT, OpenWRT has taken the cause up to fix this. Will we ever truly see open source router firmware from the vendors? Who knows. In regards to a previous comment, I was probably in error about .dts .dtb and other files with respect to OpenWRT and the GPL in general. It happens. Life moves forward. Hoping things are going well there in HK, sir @mwchang Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 14:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hoping things are going well there in HK, sir @mwchang Smile

You should have asked those who are armed to the teeth and are ready to kill civilians, NOT me. Smile

Back to router LED scripts!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 15:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
mwchang wrote:
kernel-panic69 wrote:
Hoping things are going well there in HK, sir @mwchang Smile

You should have asked those who are armed to the teeth and are ready to kill civilians, NOT me. Smile

Well, I fail at keeping up with the explosively dynamic situation there, but that answers my question perfectly. Hopefully, these things will pass without incident soon enough.
mwchang wrote:
Back to router LED scripts!

"Back to researching device GPIOs and other associated information" Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
mwchang wrote:
Back to router LED scripts!

"Back to researching device GPIOs and other associated information" Twisted Evil

Documentation from manufacturers should help, if and only if they were willing help.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good luck with that manufacturer idea, you would have more success going direct to factory and convincing them to spill the beans.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Good luck with that manufacturer idea, you would have more success going direct to factory and convincing them to spill the beans.

Wasn't the whole DD-WRT project started by a manufacturer? At least that one manufacturer was helping? It's Linksys, right?

I dunno the history of DD-WRT, definitely not the secrets and non-disclosable information. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
mwchang wrote:
Wasn't the whole DD-WRT project started by a manufacturer?

DD-WRT is Brainslayers brainchild originally branched from sweasoft, sure it was a Linksys WRT54 series based.

mwchang wrote:
I dunno the history of DD-WRT, definitely not the secrets and non-disclosable information. Smile

The his story of DD-WRT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT

Some manufacturers maybe forthcoming rare as they maybe, but most will only lift and lower fingers to type - no, but at least some release the firmware under GPL which anyone with the right skills can study, As for what is closed source, forget it, I dont see anyone rushing to sign NDAs to fix LEDS in DD-WRT, do you?

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