No Afterburner option (ASUS WL-520gC)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 16:50    Post subject: No Afterburner option (ASUS WL-520gC) Reply with quote
Hi all, today I was configurating my router (ASUS WL-520gC), and I decided to enable Afterburner option, but it wasn't anywhere! "wl cap" command says next:

ap sta wet led wme 802.11d 802.11h rm cqa mbss4 afterburner acktiming

In Wireless > Advances settings there's no afterburner option, only "Frame burst". Please help me!

dd-wrt: micro+olsrd v3.0-r44715

(Same in micro_generic)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 17:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your only option is probably frameburst unless you flash an antique build (14929); historical stable builds aren't necessarily relevant due to security patches since dinosaurs ruled the earth. That, and any issues cannot be fixed on current releases if they aren't being used.

Happy hunting.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 18:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anything named "Afterburner" on a router w/ 2MB flash (!), requiring a micro build, circa 2007, is an oxymoron. LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 19:33    Post subject: Reply with quote
Afterburner is this not currently Frame burst?

IDK what a firmware from pre stone age looked like or what "oxymorons" some labels were meant to represent in actuality corresponding to real functions, what I know is some portions generally speaking until recently have been way off mark where their label is concerned, and this issue has not been entirely resolved to a accurate technically speaking and non oxymoronic manner in all areas and such (even if already renamed) remain on the chopping block until they are accurate.

We all know that through the ice age and stone age, things were named differently, but they do have a real impact if supporting code exists.

My only concern and self assigned responsibility is that DD-WRT moves from the stone age to 2022 UI/UX wise as much as possible before I myself become obsolete.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 19:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
Afterburner and Frameburst coexisted at one point in DD-WRT. Afterburner was a WRT54GS* and clone model-specific feature from the days of Tomato/HyperWRT/Stock firmware. Anyone's guess as to why it was removed from DD-WRT.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 19:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems at first google afterburner is WDS related and maybe just Broadcom related, we all know how Broadcom love to trademark bullshit buzz (words) names and apply non standards compliant nonsense to their Broadcrap.

So my initial knee jerk reaction to Op's concern is ignore it and only use what is currently available until further notice.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 20:18    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kinda helps if you share something to reinforce words. It was a Broadcom feature, yes, available in stock Linksys firmware. Don't know where you got the idea that it relates to WDS, but I'm always willing to be educated by someone with your vast experience.


https://wifinetnews.com/archives/2004/04/review_of_afterburner-equipped_linksys_wrt54gs.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20040427165711/https://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-142-ProdID-WRT54GS-1.php

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/linksys-wrt54gs-wireless-g-broadband-router-review/

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 21:18    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just googled afterburner because Idk what Broadcom did non standard wise back when or more specifically some company like Netgear or whoever.

https://forum.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Advanced_wireless_settings#Afterburner
this page alone deserves to be re-written must use spell checkers at least.

http://tomatousb.wikidot.com/settings:wireless
https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Afterburner

And I think because Im juggling several tomatoes and potatoes and threads this particular result may have caused me to type some wrong something

https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=76391

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:21    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's easy to get confused in all the conflicting misinformation on the interwebs (especially in this forum). I'm not going to take the time to research if any of the Asus WRT54* clones were exact matches to the WRT54GS models that included SpeedBooster® (Afterbuner™) bits. I don't believe that Afterburner capability was even functional or working for any of the 802.11n chipsets (which is what devices were relevant in that forum thread you linked), but without specific datasheets that I'm reluctant to take the time to look up... well...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK some minor research.

Afterburner or whatever other trademarked names are associated, is a Broadcrap proprietary implementation that requires compatible clients in order to see any actual benefits.

Quote:
It shortens the timing between packets to squeeze more data through the constraints of the 802.11g specification, up to 40 percent throughput

Broadcom claims the technology maintained compatibility with the 802.11 specification. But yet only client adapters with support were able to benefit from this.

So no point enabling something if client side support doesn't exist. Im not even going to bother Brainslayer with this, I can hear his words right now.

Now... The firmware Op is using is insanely outdated and out of support.

http://ftp.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/betas/2022/07-04-2022-r49418/

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