Joined: 14 Dec 2015 Posts: 775 Location: 127.0.0.1
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:01 Post subject: [SOLVED] Asking for a friend. 350 wired clients.
I have a friend who needs a router capable of handling 350 wired clients. He found out the hard way that normal consumer routers can not, with stock firmware.
First thing I thought of was of course dd-wrt, but I have never come close to that many clients. He did not specify if wireless is needed, but I am sure he as dedicated AP's available.
Any suggestions, or should he buy some commercial router? _________________ Tutorial for flashing WRT series WRT Installation,Upgrade & Basic Setup–Cliff Notes
r52242: WRT3200ACM, WRT1200ACv1 & 1 Velop in bridge mode(IoT subnet), r52242 WRT1900ACv1 AP
Velop:2 WHW0101, RE6500, RE9000(AP)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:45 Post subject:
Nevermind, he decided to pay for 5 IP addresses and put two routers from the first switch... _________________ Tutorial for flashing WRT series WRT Installation,Upgrade & Basic Setup–Cliff Notes
r52242: WRT3200ACM, WRT1200ACv1 & 1 Velop in bridge mode(IoT subnet), r52242 WRT1900ACv1 AP
Velop:2 WHW0101, RE6500, RE9000(AP)
Spectrum - 1000/50
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:25 Post subject:
+1 for x84 x64, you will need a great deal of CPU processing and plenty RAM for this to work decently well after a certain amount of devices, idk however if there is a limit DD-WRT side on how many wired machines you can assign static leases to, the regular budget consumer routers wont be able even DD-WRT side.
Joined: 16 Nov 2015 Posts: 6783 Location: UK, London, just across the river..
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:56 Post subject:
"350 wired clients" thats not for SOHO router..although on R7800(XR500) or R9000(XR700) those Netgears have a good amount of ram..and specs...the theoretical max in single subnet in ddwrt is 255...(if im not wrong on the recent builds those are held by two subnets now)
for 350 clients deff DDWRT x86 or x64 PC or any other enterprise stuff...(i would prefer DDWRT )
In the past, i did few offices (for friends) with R7800 and they ware ok, but with 20-30 wired only...well + wifi, so a but more DHCP..and it was ok...in fact my R9000 is in the big office with sometimes up to 70-80 wifi clients..
You just have to fiddle with DNSmasq settings to support more Maximum number of concurrent DNS queries...otherwise DNSmasq will stall...and some other settings like static on jffs, so your nvram will be able to handle the stuff...too and ect. _________________ Atheros
TP-Link WR740Nv1 ---DD-WRT 58184 WAP
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 59369 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -Gargoyle OS 1.15.x AP,DNS,QoS,Quotas
Qualcomm-Atheros
Netgear XR500 --DD-WRT 59369 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,AP Isolation,4VLAN,Ad-Block,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 59468 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 59369 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Dynalink DL-WRX36-DDWRT 59369
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 --DD-WRT 59582 Gateway/DNScrypt-proxy2/AD-Block,IPset Firewall,Forced DNS,x4VLAN,VPN
NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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Last edited by Alozaros on Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:19; edited 1 time in total
Joined: 31 Jul 2021 Posts: 2142 Location: All over YOUR webs
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:02 Post subject:
Also, I dont advice any commercial routers, especially Cisco anything, mostly they are just as terrible at firmware updates especially after warranty runs out, so anything you can install opensource solutions router side are desired IMO.
Joined: 14 Dec 2015 Posts: 775 Location: 127.0.0.1
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:01 Post subject:
Thank you all for your input. It seems (gathering information on social media), he was consolidating two of his crypto farms into his warehouse (where electricity is a co-op e.g cheaper). No idea what two routers he went with, or what his speed is, or ISP is. But sure pay for 5 IP's a month when you need two.
Way back when cable internet first started, I did installs on the computer side at customers homes. Back then they charged 20 bucks a month for each additional IP. Yeah it was a long time ago, but that is when I found WinGate (probably not around anymore). _________________ Tutorial for flashing WRT series WRT Installation,Upgrade & Basic Setup–Cliff Notes
r52242: WRT3200ACM, WRT1200ACv1 & 1 Velop in bridge mode(IoT subnet), r52242 WRT1900ACv1 AP
Velop:2 WHW0101, RE6500, RE9000(AP)
Spectrum - 1000/50
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:32 Post subject:
You dont need even two IPs or one or any, why would you need IPs? DDNS FTW.
IDK why your friend is researching any of this on unsocial media, its like asking monkeys to type a 1000 page manuscript that is accurate and makes sense. Sure one of them may not actually be a monkey but an IT professional.
Anyway, you are pointed in right direction with x86 x64 router running opensource that is updated regularly and managed switches.