Joined: 31 Jul 2021 Posts: 2146 Location: All over YOUR webs
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 9:10 Post subject:
Sigh...
Paul-30/30/30-GO!!!! wrote:
it brings up the new log-in screen
When you reset the router, and after router becomes available, the first screen you see is NOT a login screen), Its a change pass/user screen, you need to insert a new username and password, the reset clears your previous settings fully including username and password.
It should NOT bring up any login screen as stated, it brings up the change username/password screen after a reset. See screenshot attached (Not a login screen and is first screen you see after a reset).
Now, the only things that have changed here is that the changepass.asp is now requiring auth on load and validates, it checks if you are logged in or not when accessing changepass.asp. (you can do http://routerip/changepass.asp) at any time to call that page for instance, so it needs validating against a valid login. Previous older builds did NOT do this.
What I think is going on in your case is that (because of the messages you posted), I am willing to bet (likely I'm wrong but lets see), that your syslog (if it were enabled) will have failed login attempts, and each failed login attempt blocks you from accessing the router completely for a set period of time. This protection is likely being triggered (false positive) because of some unknown at this time)
You could verify this before you do your 30/30/30 bullcrap, to WAIT for 5/10 minutes until the lockdown is lifted.
If that is the case, it means you cant access UI or SSH or telnet but I bet 100% the router will be working fine in background, i.e. you still can access internet. And after lockdown is lifted, presto
Another recommendation is to use Firefox ESR without ANY addons to access the router via UI. Everything else will perhaps cause these (false positives) issues somehow.
I often trigger this protection because Im always hacking around in browser with dev console open when it shouldn't do it because I already logged in with right credentials, but it still happens.
Be freaking patient mk and dont scramble for another reset, try to understand whats happening behind the scenes, no mater if its right or wrong or a bug or whatever.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 17:44 Post subject:
Forgive my incorrect description, I should not have written logon screen, I get the screen you describe. You are correct, I still have full use of the internet even after I lose access GUI access to DD-WRT. I will try waiting. One additional thing to mention (if I did not mention it before) if I power cycle the router I will gain GUI access, but I lose it after just looking at one or two menu items in DD-WRT. I also tried deleting the Firefox cache during the reboot, but that did not help.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 17:47 Post subject:
Private browsing mode, no extensions/add-ons; preferably FF ESR portable or Pale Moon portable. And most of all, *separate* from cruising the internet. I've found no regressions or leaks at current head. _________________ "Life is but a fleeting moment, a vapor that vanishes quickly; All is vanity"
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Joined: 31 Jul 2021 Posts: 2146 Location: All over YOUR webs
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 18:13 Post subject:
PaulGo wrote:
Forgive my incorrect description, I should not have written logon screen, I get the screen you describe. You are correct, I still have full use of the internet even after I lose access GUI access to DD-WRT. I will try waiting. One additional thing to mention (if I did not mention it before) if I power cycle the router I will gain GUI access, but I lose it after just looking at one or two menu items in DD-WRT. I also tried deleting the Firefox cache during the reboot, but that did not help.
Again, I sincerely appreciate your assistance!
Like I said, it could be triggering a failed login or multiple for some reason external to dd-wrt, until we know this isn't the case, and because the information you are providing so it seems to indicate, I have no reason to believe otherwise until you manage to enable syslog and grab a syslog for when this is happening (but if you reboot it all gets lost and a new syslog is created so bare that in mind.
I suggest you login via ssh find a way to enable it via ssh and try to duplicate it when syslog is enabled and save those logs, they will tell us if it is failed logins or not.
Failing that, only serial logs but they wont log anything like that, but may shed some light on whats going on in this bad state.
Joined: 31 Jul 2021 Posts: 2146 Location: All over YOUR webs
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 16:06 Post subject:
PaulGo wrote:
MY issues relate to making changes to test different configurations and then losing GUI and the steps I need to recover use of GUI. One interesting thing with the builds in early December, I could make as many changes as I wanted and never lose the use Of GUI. But the latter builds are the ones causing me some trouble. But I have no problems upgrading to the latest version (which I do frequently) and even when I lose GUI access I still have full functionality from my router.
When you click APPLY SETTINGS, some services restart including Networking, and this has a side effect of loss to UI temporarily until ALL services have restarted properly.
Bugs have been fixed since december, some things are getting validated better, as opposed to not.
So there is no issue and this is working as advertised.
It just seems you arent being patient, and we cant help that.
No bug then and you are overreacting with the dammed 30/30/30 reset
Joined: 31 Jul 2021 Posts: 2146 Location: All over YOUR webs
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 17:32 Post subject:
PaulGo wrote:
I truly enjoy your sense of humor. The-joker is your perfect handel. I will try to be patient, Obi-Wan.
Well, sorry to tell ya, if you are a fan club member, this updates the total number of members to 1 from 0
There are no benefits to membership though. Perhaps some stale bread and flat beer, but there isn't even that, I drank the flat beer and ate the bread.
Im also a lover of freedom and equality, so the membership charge for a life time privilege is ZERO.
Perhaps I should reconsider this price, since I'm broke and soon homeless, no joke.
Joined: 01 Dec 2021 Posts: 289 Location: Maryland, United States
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 16:40 Post subject:
I upgraded to the latest version released today, after looking at two or three items I again lost access to the GUI. I did as you suggested, wait about 15 minutes and tried again. It worked!!! I regained full GUI access. I wish I knew about this when it first started happening.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 16:49 Post subject:
I'm waiting on the next 0 or 5 nightly or public build to upgrade, but I just tabbed through the entire webUI using Pale Moon Portable 32-bit in private browsing mode with NO add-ons or extensions loaded on 48810 on a TL-WA901NDv2 without a hiccup. What browser are you using and what is the entire picture of your webUI navigation scenario? _________________ "Life is but a fleeting moment, a vapor that vanishes quickly; All is vanity"
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Joined: 31 Jul 2021 Posts: 2146 Location: All over YOUR webs
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 16:59 Post subject:
PaulGo wrote:
I upgraded to the latest version released today, after looking at two or three items I again lost access to the GUI. I did as you suggested, wait about 15 minutes and tried again. It worked!!! I regained full GUI access. I wish I knew about this when it first started happening.
!5 minutes is a bit long to wait, if you wait 60 seconds should be enough, depending on how fast your router is to restart all services maybe give it another minute, so 120seconds. It should be enough unless your router has really heavy loads, the heavier the cpu loads the longer everything takes.
Im not gonna ask you if you're torrenting 4K porn, but torrenting is quite cpu intensive and so is the porn, its quite intensive friction wise.
But Yea, no more 30/30/30 resets needed, it was like fixing what wasnt broken.
Joined: 01 Dec 2021 Posts: 289 Location: Maryland, United States
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 17:06 Post subject:
My primary browser is Firefox. After I lost GUI access, I put the browser in the troubleshoot mode which disables all extensions and add-ons and I deleted the cache. That did not work. So I then tried Chrome and Edge browsers with the same results of no GUI. I then waited and the GUI came back in Firefox with full access. Since my R6300v1 only has a one core CPU running at 600mhz (which I overclock) I assume it may take additional time to fully implement everything and that's why I lose the GUI temporarily.
Initially I was trying for about five minutes after I lost the GUI but it was still not working. So I waited another ten minutes before I tried again and sucess. I was not accessing any other sites while waiting for the GUI to respond.
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 17:33 Post subject:
Outside of using recommended methods and browsers to access webUI, the only other recent issue was with certain parameters in the Administration -> Sysctl tab. I've noticed that the tcp_tw_recycle parameter is no longer visible in the webUI, but the tcp_tw_reuse is. Both are still set to 0 in nvram, though. _________________ "Life is but a fleeting moment, a vapor that vanishes quickly; All is vanity"
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 17:35 Post subject:
Yea, could be the single core cpu is crapping out, here with dual core 1Ghz, it takes around 10/15 seconds for everything to return including the DHCP leases for my main wired PC.
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