Are Routers With A Raspberry Pie Compute Modules A Good Idea

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:40    Post subject: Are Routers With A Raspberry Pie Compute Modules A Good Idea Reply with quote
I was wondering if future could/should use replaceable raspberry pie compute modules since compared to most routers that would allow a faster CPU, more ram larger onboard emmc and no chip license (ARM for example). Is this a good idea or is there something I'm missing? Has there been any development in that direction.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 17:04    Post subject: Re: Are Routers With A Raspberry Pie Compute Modules A Good Reply with quote
ciscodlink wrote:
I was wondering if future could/should use replaceable raspberry pie compute modules since compared to most routers that would allow a faster CPU, more ram larger onboard emmc and no chip license (ARM for example). Is this a good idea or is there something I'm missing? Has there been any development in that direction.

im guessing its not a bad idea for a "router on a stick" but by the time you add a multiport switch and wireless interface to it, its less trouble to just go with an off the shelf wireless router.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 20:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
It also depends on what you are trying to do.

I helped one person set up a raspberry pi zero as a small wireless router, but this is not dd-wrt related.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wildlion wrote:
It also depends on what you are trying to do.

I helped one person set up a raspberry pi zero as a small wireless router, but this is not dd-wrt related.

There are hobbyists running a full standard desktop Linux with Raspberry Pi, sometimes Windows 10.... Smile


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
OpenWRT supports RPi as a home router. You can also use the Pi for Pi-Hole. The only thing I can think of that is a drawback is that you only have a single ethernet port and you would have to use a USB dongle ethernet adapter for WAN or LAN and this would likely affect your throughput.

https://www.zahradnik.io/raspberry-pi-as-a-home-router

Personally, MicroTik, Ubiquiti, and many others that have multiple ethernet ports, including some of the more recent mini PC devices are better suited. I mean, unless you're going to build a small RPi Beowulf Cluster or something.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 15:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
OpenWRT supports RPi as a home router. You can also use the Pi for Pi-Hole. The only thing I can think of that is a drawback is that you only have a single ethernet port and you would have to use a USB dongle ethernet adapter for WAN or LAN and this would likely affect your throughput.

https://www.zahradnik.io/raspberry-pi-as-a-home-router

Personally, MicroTik, Ubiquiti, and many others that have multiple ethernet ports, including some of the more recent mini PC devices are better suited. I mean, unless you're going to build a small RPi Beowulf Cluster or something.

I read the link you provided. Good read.

While having only one ethernet port is somewhat a disadvantage, it is certainly no show stopper. It is very possible to configure that single port into two VLANs and used with a managed switch, could work quite well. Probably much better than having a USB ethernet adaptor. I may order yet another RPi4 soon and experiment with this and OpenWRT. I am curious as to what iperf3 results could potentially be.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 0:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
OpenWRT supports RPi as a home router. You can also use the Pi for Pi-Hole. The only thing I can think of that is a drawback is that you only have a single ethernet port and you would have to use a USB dongle ethernet adapter for WAN or LAN and this would likely affect your throughput.

https://www.zahradnik.io/raspberry-pi-as-a-home-router

Personally, MicroTik, Ubiquiti, and many others that have multiple ethernet ports, including some of the more recent mini PC devices are better suited. I mean, unless you're going to build a small RPi Beowulf Cluster or something.


Any discussion re: rpi backend/router frontend?

Example: my N66U only processes wifi and support for built in ethernet switch, everything else is on the rpi. Is there a real-world case? Seems like BS and many others should have already explored this path as a pro option w license.

Couldn't find any other rpi references in dd-wrt search or via ggl.

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Much later, the thought 'why not any x86 backend?' Seems the core design effort for routers is wifi, not server functionality.

The openwrt -> rpi4 is uninteresting as a whole router replacement as long as wifi is important (wifi/bt share the same tiny antenna)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:11    Post subject: Reply with quote
Most RPI models have throughput issues as the Ethernet Port is connected to USB.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rpi as a router...consider all the other opportunities,
getting down to a Rpi is a bit of a nonsense, unless you stack them and build a cluster...even thou why struggle, but not get the real enterprise or top 3rd party supported router...but at the end of the days this is DDWRT forum and there are many DDWRT related solutions, as a x86 / x64 PC DDWRT box if you want to get more power...
or top supported router like R7800(XR500), R9000(XR700)...

I ve no idea how often RPi router binaries get updated, but can tell you how often DDWRT gets its updates Cool Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 13:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
DD-WRT R7800 (XR450/XR500), R9000 (R8900/XR700), R7500v2, EA8500 (serial flash) or x86.

Q750G5 J4125, this one stood out to me. Of course, there are plenty of x86 solutions out there.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Q750G5 J4125, this one stood out to me.


that one doesn't support AES-NI
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 15:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
Intel® AES New Instructions, both J4105 and J4125 definitely support AES-NI.

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=j4125+i225
https://qotom.aliexpress.com/store/108231/search?SearchText=i225

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=6x+j4125+i225

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 16:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
blkt wrote:
• No matter where you go, there you are
blkt wrote:
Q750G5 J4125, this one stood out to me. Of course, there are plenty of x86 solutions out there.
the second link is dead, can you please repost another equivalent link for "the stood out one"?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 17:54    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting. For me, the first link is dead, the second one works Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Interesting. For me, the first link is dead, the second one works Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil
Let me tweak my question: Which features make this one stood out? Twisted Evil
Or should I start another topic to get the recommendations for x86? I've seen some previous discussions but they're a few years old.

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