There is a speed issue with builds starting early this year

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:19    Post subject: There is a speed issue with builds starting early this year Reply with quote
I noticed a small speed slowdown this year when using my newsreader but I didn't think much of it I just thought my news reader had a update so it's calculating my speed differently. I just got a gigabit connection and now I am sure it's dd-wrt. I am losing about 100 mbps up and 200 down I reinstalled the netgear stock firmware and it is much closer to what I should be getting. I went back to a build from the end of 2020 and speeds are better but still not as good with the stock firmware.
I remember a while back I believe it was in 2016 I had a similar speed problem and it took Several months before it was corrected. Anyone else having speed issues maybe there is some new feature that I need to change any help would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 17:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
It would help the community at large to know which router this is on, so this thread could be directed properly. If you have a Broadcom device, then there have been recent changes to (re-)add Cut Through Forwarding engine and Flow Acceleration, which work much better than Shortcut Forwarding Engine. If you own an Atheros, all you have is SFE (AFAIK) and routers such as the R7800 do not fully utilize the NSS cores in DD-WRT. If you have a Marvell, all you have is SFE, no native acceleration support that I am aware of; same for MediaTek/Ralink.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 22:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
It would help the community at large to know which router this is on, so this thread could be directed properly. If you have a Broadcom device, then there have been recent changes to (re-)add Cut Through Forwarding engine and Flow Acceleration, which work much better than Shortcut Forwarding Engine. If you own an Atheros, all you have is SFE (AFAIK) and routers such as the R7800 do not fully utilize the NSS cores in DD-WRT. If you have a Marvell, all you have is SFE, no native acceleration support that I am aware of; same for MediaTek/Ralink.


It's a netgear r7000 When I first got connected my speeds were exactly the same up and down 340 mbps I read on this forum to enable sfe. That increased my speed up to what I have now!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
Using CTF as "Shortcut Forwarding Engine" would probably help a little more; I don't know if the R7000 supports Flow Acceleration or not. You can always try CTF+FA and see.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
kernel-panic69 wrote:
If you own an Atheros, all you have is SFE (AFAIK) and routers such as the R7800 do not fully utilize the NSS cores


The NSS cores are not used at all with dd-wrt. (not 1%)
But they work with various OpenWRT builds

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/ipq806x-nss-build-netgear-r7800-tp-link-c2600-linksys-ea8500/82525

kernel-panic69 wrote:
If you have a Marvell, all you have is SFE, no native acceleration support that I am aware of; same for MediaTek/Ralink.


There are various Mediatek CPUs with hardware NAT acceleration.

for example: MT7621 / MT7622 / MT7623

https://www.mediatek.com/products/homeNetworking/mt7621

Quote:
Network Accelerator:
2Gbps IPv4/6 routing, NAT, NAPT+HQoS


The acceleration is also supported by various OpenWRT builds

https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commits/master/target/linux/mediatek/patches-5.4/0999-hnat.patch

According to https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

this concerns about 15 routers that also work with dd-wrt

unfortunately, this is generally a very neglected topic
if you follow the individual threads so probably neither NSS nor HW-NAT works with the current OpenWRT Master branch.

together with the other limitations we are back to the topic "we need faster routers / CPUs".
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 16:18    Post subject: Re: There is a speed issue with builds starting early this y Reply with quote
rootervsrouter wrote:
I noticed a small speed slowdown this year when using my newsreader but I didn't think much of it I just thought my news reader had a update so it's calculating my speed differently. I just got a gigabit connection and now I am sure it's dd-wrt. I am losing about 100 mbps up and 200 down I reinstalled the netgear stock firmware and it is much closer to what I should be getting. I went back to a build from the end of 2020 and speeds are better but still not as good with the stock firmware.

Are you doing lots of bit-torrent download & upload? Are you using VPN? Is it just the DNS? Are you talking about WiFi or wired connections?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 18:27    Post subject: Reply with quote
The latest builds are me not giving any options with ctf and flow control just enable or shortcut Forwarding Engine
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:29    Post subject: Re: There is a speed issue with builds starting early this y Reply with quote
mwchang wrote:
rootervsrouter wrote:
I noticed a small speed slowdown this year when using my newsreader but I didn't think much of it I just thought my news reader had a update so it's calculating my speed differently. I just got a gigabit connection and now I am sure it's dd-wrt. I am losing about 100 mbps up and 200 down I reinstalled the netgear stock firmware and it is much closer to what I should be getting. I went back to a build from the end of 2020 and speeds are better but still not as good with the stock firmware.

Are you doing lots of bit-torrent download & upload? Are you using VPN? Is it just the DNS? Are you talking about WiFi or wired connections?



Yes I am torrenting and using newsgroups on a wired & wifi connection I have a separate network using a vpn that is why I don't want to stop using dd-wrt. I expect a slowdown when using wifi what I am concerned about is the ethernet connection.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
Moved to Broadcom as this is about an R7000
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