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nkaufman
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 13:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
disable QCA Q-Boost / TDMA

and RTFM

https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/QCA_wireless_settings#QCA_Q-Boost_.2F_TDMA__support



thanks for catching that. thought I already posted my reply but see that I missed

I had QCA Q-Boost / TDMA disabled for 2.4Ghz but had missed setting that for 5GHz.

After the change, my wireless speeds have improved
5GHz - 450 D/L, 320 U/L


Per Yngve Berg wrote:
If you are located in Europe, use channel 13+lower.

There are two neighbours that cause problems on channel 4 and 7.


I'm in USA.


ian5142 wrote:
I would use Channel 11 and lower for 2.4GHz.

How do you have more 5GHz networks in range than 2.4GHz? That is the first time I have seen that. 5GHz channel requires 4 non-overlapping channels, 149-161 for example for VHT 80. I don't see how that would be possible in that environment.


After selecting Channel 11 and lower, the speed of 2.4GHz has improved to - 50 D/L, 70 U/L

Anything else that needs to be tweaked?
Would you like to get the latest Channel and Site Survey pics for 2.4GHz?
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 14:55    Post subject: Connection Speeds Reply with quote
If these are connection speed, not throughput, there should be ways to get that higher.

First of all, is the client you are testing, 1x1, 2x2 or 3x3? Number of WiFi streams it can receive simultaneously. Most cellphones and tablets are 1x1. Most laptops are 2x2 with some being 3x3. First number is transmit antennas, the second receive antennas. Most use the same antennas for both, some routers do not. This makes a difference in max connection speed.

For example, on the 2.4GHz side, a 1x1 stream maxes out at 150MB/s download and upload, Wireless-N. 2x2 - 300MB/s, 3x3 - 450MB/s. These are all theoretical maxes. Possible in the real world but only under perfect conditions.

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Atheros:
Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS

Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
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nkaufman
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 17:46    Post subject: Re: Connection Speeds Reply with quote
ian5142 wrote:
If these are connection speed, not throughput, there should be ways to get that higher.

First of all, is the client you are testing, 1x1, 2x2 or 3x3? Number of WiFi streams it can receive simultaneously. Most cellphones and tablets are 1x1. Most laptops are 2x2 with some being 3x3. First number is transmit antennas, the second receive antennas. Most use the same antennas for both, some routers do not. This makes a difference in max connection speed.

For example, on the 2.4GHz side, a 1x1 stream maxes out at 150MB/s download and upload, Wireless-N. 2x2 - 300MB/s, 3x3 - 450MB/s. These are all theoretical maxes. Possible in the real world but only under perfect conditions.


These are speedtest numbers

tested on a laptop with Intel AC-8260 adapter
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/86068/intel-dual-band-wireless-ac-8260.html

has 2x2 antenna


I tested 2.4GHz a couple of feet away from router and got speeds of 175 D/L and 180 U/L
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 18:03    Post subject: Speed test Reply with quote
If that is speed test numbers, from DSLReports Speedtest, then that is about the max you will get on 2.4GHz.

5GHz AC, you should be able to get a bit more.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

(make sure it is the non-https version, less overhead, more accurate test).

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Atheros:
Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS

Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
UBNT EdgeRouter X - switch
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 18:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have via 2,4Ghz 300-350Mbit real throughput with 4x4 (without TurboQAM)

Donwload

[SUM] 0.00-60.02 sec 2.22 GBytes 317 Mbits/sec 40 sender
[SUM] 0.00-60.00 sec 2.20 GBytes 316 Mbits/sec receiver

Upload

[SUM] 0.00-60.00 sec 2.37 GBytes 339 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[SUM] 0.00-60.01 sec 2.36 GBytes 337 Mbits/sec receiver

DSL Reports can only measure the WAN speed and not the WLAN speed
nkaufman
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 21:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
ho1Aetoo wrote:
I have via 2,4Ghz 300-350Mbit real throughput with 4x4 (without TurboQAM)

Donwload

[SUM] 0.00-60.02 sec 2.22 GBytes 317 Mbits/sec 40 sender
[SUM] 0.00-60.00 sec 2.20 GBytes 316 Mbits/sec receiver

Upload

[SUM] 0.00-60.00 sec 2.37 GBytes 339 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[SUM] 0.00-60.01 sec 2.36 GBytes 337 Mbits/sec receiver

DSL Reports can only measure the WAN speed and not the WLAN speed


Understand and agree.

However it seems that speedtest gives an approx measure of wifi performance and hence i was trying to find out if there are any other settings that can be tweaked to improve the performance.

I seem to be getting a bit more improved speeds with channel 4 and up on 2.4 GHz when compared to channel 11.
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 21:24    Post subject: Reply with quote
The channel overlap, so only use 1, 6 and 11
nkaufman
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2021 23:19    Post subject: Reply with quote
Per Yngve Berg wrote:
The channel overlap, so only use 1, 6 and 11


ok, will use 11 and lower and see.

Does anything jump out at from the settings pics attached earlier? Can attach new screenshots if needed.

Thanks
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