5ghz devices not entering power save?

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Rustblade
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 18:16    Post subject: 5ghz devices not entering power save? Reply with quote
Archer C7 v2, r43516

I've noticed that devices on the 5ghz radio aren't entering powersave. Stuff connected to the 2.4 does fine. I haven't used 5ghz a whole lot so I don't know if this is normal or not.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 18:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
powersave is disabled on qca9880 (what u have), 9980, 9984 in firmware for whatever reason..
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 23:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah okay yeah I thought it may be a firmware issue. Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 20:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 wrote:
powersave is disabled on qca9880 (what u have), 9980, 9984 in firmware for whatever reason..


Quite interesting it works on ath9k. I gave my TP-Link Archer C7 a spin this weekend, and I noticed faster battery draining on my Android phone, and the Apple devices went to 2.4 GHz probably for the powersave. I wonder how devices with a 4.x kernel behave? Is it also disabled there?

Would really be neat if it could be enabled by choice.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 18:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
its disabled in ath10k (stock, supposedly ct has it on) radio fw, ath9k radios have no radio fw to deal with.
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we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150/QCA9984/QCA9882 ------> r55797 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------------------------> r55797 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------------------------> r50485 std
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------------------------> r50485 std


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 21:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 wrote:
its disabled in ath10k (stock, supposedly ct has it on) radio fw, ath9k radios have no radio fw to deal with.


Ok, good to know. I had the router running on OpenWrt as well, just to test stuff out. There I found the Apple devices kept on 5 GHz, and also Chromecast was willing to connect to 5 GHz as well (not on dd-wrt), ran with same wifi settings. I wonder what the big difference between OpenWrt and dd-wrt (besides the kernel version) is in this respect. I did think it had something todo with power saving, but apparently not.

I was expecting the board.bin found on dd-wrt to match https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware/blob/master/QCA988X/hw2.0/board.bin however md5sum did not match, so I wonder what board.bin it runs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 23:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
that board.bin is for a qca9888, archer c7 has qca9880, they're different.

for ath10k radios (and ath9k if u want, too), best we can do is add

basic_rates=60

to hostapd conf, which is the box in the wireless security page. this will force most devices that idle at 24M to idle at 6M for a tiny saving, the 1/200 odd device will still ignore and idle at whatever it wants..

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150/QCA9984/QCA9882 ------> r55797 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------------------------> r55797 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------------------------> r50485 std
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------------------------> r50485 std


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway.. | I love you Anthony.. never forget that.. my other 99% that ill never see again..

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 wrote:
that board.bin is for a qca9888, archer c7 has qca9880, they're different.


The link I sent was for qca988x, which the archer is? It seems that there is firmware for qca988x and qca9888.

tatsuya46 wrote:

for ath10k radios (and ath9k if u want, too), best we can do is add

basic_rates=60

to hostapd conf, which is the box in the wireless security page. this will force most devices that idle at 24M to idle at 6M for a tiny saving, the 1/200 odd device will still ignore and idle at whatever it wants..


Thanks for the hint, will try next time I give it a spin.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
bosim wrote:
tatsuya46 wrote:
that board.bin is for a qca9888, archer c7 has qca9880, they're different.


The link I sent was for qca988x, which the archer is? It seems that there is firmware for qca988x and qca9888.

tatsuya46 wrote:

for ath10k radios (and ath9k if u want, too), best we can do is add

basic_rates=60

to hostapd conf, which is the box in the wireless security page. this will force most devices that idle at 24M to idle at 6M for a tiny saving, the 1/200 odd device will still ignore and idle at whatever it wants..


Thanks for the hint, will try next time I give it a spin.


the whole naming scheme is sloppy..

qca988x = 9880 + 9882
qca9888 = 9886 + 9888

when 988x should equal everything from 80 to 89 but *shrug*

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BrainSlayer wrote:
we just do it since we do not like any restrictions enforced by stupid cocaine snorting managers

[x86_64] Haswell i3-4150/QCA9984/QCA9882 ------> r55797 std
[QUALCOMM] DIR-862L --------------------------------> r55797 std
▲ ACTIVE / INACTIVE ▼
[QUALCOMM] WNDR4300 v1 --------------------------> r50485 std
[BROADCOM] DIR-860L A1 ----------------------------> r50485 std


Sigh.. why do i exist anyway.. | I love you Anthony.. never forget that.. my other 99% that ill never see again..

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