Joined: 30 May 2017 Posts: 582 Location: Rural Manitoba
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:01 Post subject:
Upgraded all my routers to r41380 yesterday. Haven't tried any recent upgrades for a while since they all seem to be causing gui access problems. Also I have been unable to find a build of recent origin that was compatible with my old 1900's and 1200.
First thing noticed is that when I upgraded my 3200 master, for the first time in years to do a second reboot to access internet. This was a welcome surprise.
Last night I did lose the gui on one of my 1900's and had to reboot via telnet. The unit has been rock solid for all the mix of 2.4ghz devices and been running now for 14 hours without any hiccup on any device. This was the main reason used a more than year old firmware on the unit as anything new was having considerable re-negotiation issues. This build appears rock solid in that respect. Even if I do lose the gui access periodically I can live with that since the devices and remote link hold solid.
The other units, 1200 V1, 1900 V1, and 3200's have been up for 27 hrs. without any issues whatsoever.
Conclusion - this build is likely one of the best in recent history for running very basic multiple devices and client link operations. I stopped using wds a while ago as client-bridge functioned great for my application. So I cannot comment on whether it will function correctly. _________________ Starlink & DSL -> TPLink TL-R470T+
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WRT3200acm Master WDS 5GHz 80Mhz CH 100 (+6) r55819
Ath1 2.4Ghz Disabled
99 Static Leases
ExpressVPN
WRT3200acm r55819 WDS Station 5Ghz
Ath1 AP N/G Mixed Channel 11 HT40
WRT1900Ac V1 5Ghz r55819 WDS Station
(Defective, no 2.4Ghz but 5Ghz works great)
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS Station r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT1900ACS SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS-AP r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT54G DD-WRT v3.0-r37305 micro AP CH 6 Mixed - Not in use
Are you using QoS on any of your routers? I'm just curious as that's my next experiment on this build to see if turning that off stops the loss of GUI.
As I said, i think it's something in the router firmware since r40009 that's not refreshing properly on mine. Killing the httpd process and letting it restart without a hard reboot brings the GUI back.
Joined: 30 May 2017 Posts: 582 Location: Rural Manitoba
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:38 Post subject:
ellick wrote:
@Wened
Are you using QoS on any of your routers? I'm just curious as that's my next experiment on this build to see if turning that off stops the loss of GUI.
As I said, i think it's something in the router firmware since r40009 that's not refreshing properly on mine. Killing the httpd process and letting it restart without a hard reboot brings the GUI back.
As I said, except for the multiple links, I am very basic. No QOS, VPN or any other special operations. The only over-basic that I use is a hard drive on the USB port for online storage and a 100 item preset default static list. With the exception of reloading the static list, if I choose to reset on upgrade it only takes about 5 minutes per router. I did not reset when I uped to r41380 from r40009 and r35898 (or something) on my older units. I have always strived to live by the KISS system. I may have the knowledge and experience to overly complicate, but in the end I have always created my own problems. Keeping it basic suits my needs. _________________ Starlink & DSL -> TPLink TL-R470T+
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WRT3200acm Master WDS 5GHz 80Mhz CH 100 (+6) r55819
Ath1 2.4Ghz Disabled
99 Static Leases
ExpressVPN
WRT3200acm r55819 WDS Station 5Ghz
Ath1 AP N/G Mixed Channel 11 HT40
WRT1900Ac V1 5Ghz r55819 WDS Station
(Defective, no 2.4Ghz but 5Ghz works great)
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS Station r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT1900ACS SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS-AP r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT54G DD-WRT v3.0-r37305 micro AP CH 6 Mixed - Not in use
heh. I agree with you. The reason i asked about QoS was you said you had one router that lost the GUI. I was looking for some possible setting that was the same as mine.
I'm pretty basic too. I install the firmware and have done it multiple times after clearing nvram. I then set up basic wireless and standard wireless security on both the 5ghz and 2.4ghz radios. I set the DNS servers to use cloudflare rather than my ISP. I set one roku tv to use a static DNS and set up an openvpn client for it but it's turned off most of the time. I only use it when needed to defeat a geo restriction.
Try disabling that and letting it run for 24 hours...Worth a try...
I did also see some new entries in the Bug Tracker of some changes that might pertain in a future version.
That was my next experiment. I need the wireless radios but figured I could remove the few other options like you mentioned but in reverse. Turn them off one at a time and see if there's any difference.
Right now I changed the administration options to check both http and https. I will see if I lose http on port 80 if I also lose https access on port 443.
Turning off QoS for 24hrs will be the next thing to try.
Joined: 10 Nov 2018 Posts: 350 Location: South Carolina
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:57 Post subject:
ellick wrote:
DaveI wrote:
Ellick,
Here's something to try...
I'm not the only person who has reported these losses of GUI but lately it doesn't seem like many people are even bothering to test these new builds. Or at least few are bothering to post their results.
More and more i'm considering just reinstalling openwrt. I never had all these problems with that. It's much more stable than dd-wrt.
Unfortunately for those having these GUI issues, I've been unable to duplicate having that problem. I can constantly report that its working fine, but that seems to aggravate those who have the issue, so I don't report "not having gui issues" constantly. Its a "you are darned if you do, and darned if you don't" scenario when it comes to reporting continuous problems (or lack of). IMHO for those who believe that openwrt is "more stable", they should dump the dd-wrt and go with what works better for them. Not sure why anyone would mess with development firmware that is more troublesome or worse than other usable options that are static and fit their needs. If your "up time" is critical, don't use development firmware. Just saying...
I realize its frustrating to have an issue when its not global. I test these builds fairly extensively. I run Status>Bandwidth dynamic displays almost perpetually when not messing with other options, watching to make sure the charting continues to update and doesn't freeze. I also don't feel qualified to report on options that I simply don't use. I do use the VPN client exclusively, as for the reason I even use dd-wrt. I've reported many times that the wifi is problematic on any function short of simple narrow G and/or N modes, only to be told its a wifi driver issue out of the control of dd-wrt folks, so I don't continue to report that either. I've bricked my 3200 on a couple occasions and reported that, but moved on with a recovery. So, if you look back at my "reports", you'll see I'll report something once or twice, enter a ticket on "trac" if it warrants it, and just move on. I think that folks lose sight that this firmware is purely in development, and probably will never have a "finished 100% stable product".
I lost access to both http and https in only about 4-5 hours this time. Internet is still up and working fine. Wireless works fine. I just can't access the webGUI from multiple machines.
Next I'll turn off QoS and see if it still happens.
@scar1943. I don't think anyone forgets that dd-wrt is always in development but your post gives off the impression that we should just shut up and move on if we have problems. I keep reporting this and made a ticket because I'd like to see it get fixed.
Open-wrt is more stable than dd-wrt and maybe I will go back to that if this issue keeps happening. dd-wrt is way easier to use so there's a trade-off. I couldn't figure out how to get my open-vpn client to work under open-wrt for instance. In dd-wrt it was pretty easy to set it up. That's why I switched in the first place.
wrt1900acs v2 10-24-2019-r41379
So far all the variants i tried with DD WRT i was losing the connection with the web interface and router..
Intentionally i left a ping on the router's address, at the same time as i was making the settings, i lose the connection with the router, only a restart of the router makes me have access to the router again!
As an extra option in dd wrt I have set ipv6 activation,i do not know if these settings created this situation because i did not monitor. _________________ Internet provider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCS_%26_RDS 1Gbps
WDR3600 rev.1.5 - DD-Wrt
Linksys WRT1900ACS v.2 DD-Wrt/-OpenWrt
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 15:44 Post subject: Linksys WRT1900ACSv2
Router/Version: Linksys WRT1900ACSv2
File: ddwrt-linksys-wrt1900acsv2-webflash.bin
Kernel: Linux 4.9.197 #1368 SMP Thu Oct 24 07:06:09 CEST 2019 armv7l
Mode: AP, NAS, OpenVPN Server
Status: Working, 100%
Upgraded from r41328 std (10/15/2019)
Internet speed: 221 Mb/s (expect 200 Mb/s)
LAN speed: 582 Mb/s (previous was 561 Mb/s, record is 613)
WiFi speed (2.4 Ghz): 62 Mb/s (previous was 64 Mb/s, record is 141)
WiFi speed (5 Ghz): 29 Mb/s (previous 30 Mb/s, record is 97)
WiFi devices
- printer (5GHz) - ping from LAN is 4410ms, 19% packet loss (uptime 2 minutes)
- iPad (2.4 Ghz) - working
- Android phone (2.4/5Ghz) - working
- Macbook (2.4GHz) - working
- Chromecast (5GHz) - working
- printer (5GHz) - ping from LAN is 2.6ms, 0% packet loss (uptime 28 minutes)
OpenVPN server is working
Samba works after I removed and re-added mount point (/mnt/sda1)
Samba works with Linux and Windows 10 clients.
Joined: 30 May 2017 Posts: 582 Location: Rural Manitoba
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 16:40 Post subject: GUI loss
Lost GUI access to one remote router (again).
All routers up > 24hrs.
Access monitoring on IE11 (exclusive for just routers)
Also PaperTrail monitoring (no unusual entries prior)
Memory usage for IE11 at time of loss >1gb
Restarted IE11. Memory usage < 100mb - no GUI access to all remote routers.
Ping to all routers successful.
Telnet into routers > reboot GUI access restored
Monitoring memory usage for IE11 - notice slow but steady increase.
Don't know if this helps those trying to resolve the GUI loss. It appears that the router is locking in on a particular page and not allowing any further access. In my case I found that either trying to change the page view or even a refresh would lockout the GUI. If I close out IE11 and restart I will likely lose GUI access to one or most of the routers. Telnet reboot restores access. Also IE11 memory usage is continuing to climb. _________________ Starlink & DSL -> TPLink TL-R470T+
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WRT3200acm Master WDS 5GHz 80Mhz CH 100 (+6) r55819
Ath1 2.4Ghz Disabled
99 Static Leases
ExpressVPN
WRT3200acm r55819 WDS Station 5Ghz
Ath1 AP N/G Mixed Channel 11 HT40
WRT1900Ac V1 5Ghz r55819 WDS Station
(Defective, no 2.4Ghz but 5Ghz works great)
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS Station r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT1900ACS SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS-AP r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT54G DD-WRT v3.0-r37305 micro AP CH 6 Mixed - Not in use
You sound much more experienced with this stuff than me so maybe you can think of something that might give BS a hint as to a cause?
I just looked at my memory usage. It's been about 5hrs since I had to restart the httpd process. I'm only using 73mb of 499.9. I'm now running without QoS turned on to see if that makes any difference. Normally I lose the GUI when there isn't all that much activity.
You sound much more experienced with this stuff than me so maybe you can think of something that might give BS a hint as to a cause?
I just looked at my memory usage. It's been about 5hrs since I had to restart the httpd process. I'm only using 73mb of 499.9. I'm now running without QoS turned on to see if that makes any difference. Normally I lose the GUI when there isn't all that much activity.
Added info to ticket. Just did another quick test and found that all I have to do to recreate the GUI loss is close out IE11 and restart where upon some of the routers will not be accessible. Most commonly those linked by WiFi. Still have never lost my master access. The other router which is connected directly on LAN most often does not loose access but that only when IE11 memory usage is still low. _________________ Starlink & DSL -> TPLink TL-R470T+
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WRT3200acm Master WDS 5GHz 80Mhz CH 100 (+6) r55819
Ath1 2.4Ghz Disabled
99 Static Leases
ExpressVPN
WRT3200acm r55819 WDS Station 5Ghz
Ath1 AP N/G Mixed Channel 11 HT40
WRT1900Ac V1 5Ghz r55819 WDS Station
(Defective, no 2.4Ghz but 5Ghz works great)
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS Station r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT1900ACS SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC SPARE r54914
WRT1900AC V1 5Ghz AC 80Mhz WDS-AP r55819
2.4Ghz AP Ch1 HT20 Mixed
WRT54G DD-WRT v3.0-r37305 micro AP CH 6 Mixed - Not in use
Joined: 04 Aug 2012 Posts: 612 Location: behind the screen
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 20:51 Post subject:
ellick wrote:
gufus wrote:
ellick wrote:
I'm not the only person who has reported these losses of GUI but lately it doesn't seem like many people are even bothering to test these new builds. Or at least few are bothering to post their results.
Yep, I lost access to the gui with this build too
Thanks. You don't have the same router either. I made a ticket about it if you want to add to it?
I need the wireless radios but figured I could remove the few other options like you mentioned but in reverse. Turn them off one at a time and see if there's any difference.
