Switch from Kong to BS rough for wireless connex. Ideas?

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wheaton4prez
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:25    Post subject: Switch from Kong to BS rough for wireless connex. Ideas? Reply with quote
Since the Kong builds are no longer supported, I have switched to BS. But, I am having the same issues I had that caused me to use Kong builds originally.

Wired connections are great. In fact, it appears that the default BS build is faster than Kong wired.

However, I'm having issues with wireless. Either the strength isn't as high or it's just dropping frequently. A wireless Roku that used to work fine in same place is not buffering constantly on movies.

My router is an EA8500. Maybe I need to configure the wireless a little differently in BS compared to Kong?

Any ideas on what steps I can take to troubleshoot and optimize wireless would be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:48    Post subject: Re: Switch from Kong to BS rough for wireless connex. Ideas? Reply with quote
wheaton4prez wrote:


My router is an EA8500. Maybe I need to configure the wireless a little differently in BS compared to Kong?

Any ideas on what steps I can take to troubleshoot and optimize wireless would be greatly appreciated.


You should provide more info, how did you install the BS build, what build is used
Did you reset to factory / erase nvram and create manually a new configuration. Did you check the feedback posts for the build and your router that it is reported as working with the functions you need to use ?
Take note that some of the r41xxx builds may have issues with GUI / Factory Reset and Save function, samba and the WLAN 80 Mhz extension channel settings in the GUI might not match the really applied settings on some builds (changelog states this fixed on lastest builds), so you may play with the 20/40/80 Mhz and channel settings , extension channel setting check this with inSSID for example that the extension channel the router uses matches with the GUI settings.
Take a look here https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=287976&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1740


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
You do not state what build you are using.

The latest build 41174 is working great for my R7800 although I did not do any wifi range/throughput testing.

Here are some references from the R7800 install guide regarding wifi, maybe those are helpfull:
Wireless settings
https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1154617#1154617
https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/QCA_wireless_settings
https://svn.dd-wrt.com/ticket/5699
https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-country/

@MSOEnginieer did a lot of research regarding QCA set up I hope he will chime in

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:41    Post subject: Reply with quote
As @servicetech said take a look at the channel settings not all work well.

Another point, I can remember that BS has recently updated the wireless drivers and I can recall a comment frorm someone that it was nice that he was now using the same drivers as Kong (I am talking about the ath10k drivers, BS has been doing a lot of work on channel settings, regulatory domains and broadcom drivers as well) but I am not 100% sure of this.

So yes try the latest 41174 build: https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=321479

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
wheaton4prez,

BS only used a newer (junky) ath10k for the EA8500 (QCA9980) for maybe 1 or 2 builds ...not recently at all.

It is now still ath10k firmware ver 10.4-3.5.3-00050 on the EA8500 and has been for years

These are good wireless pointers ---
https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/QCA_wireless_settings

I don't have it now but I did have Roku a year back that never missed a beat connected to EA8500.
I do still have two chromecast and they also never miss a beat.

The EA8500 has as good of wireless range as any router you will ever find and like any unit
it should be setup properly for your type connection and wireless clients and whatever else you are doing with it.

Info about your connection type / speed / provider / setup / DD-WRT build, would be helpful so peoples can help you. Question
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
MSOengineer’s settings work well for my r7800, worth a try on your 8500:

https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1154617#1154617

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wheaton4prez
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you all for this info. Gives me a lot to try.

I should have given more info to begin with:

The build I'm using is 41113.

When I switched from Kong's builds I did a reset (via the firmware upgrade GUI) and re-did all of my settings.

Channel settings, I originally had the default settings for this. I have since changed them to HT40 for ath0 and VHT80 for ath1.

After that (and a few other changes in wireless settings) I was still getting some buffering on the Roku today. But, it was strange, I left the problematic channel and went back to it and the buffering stopped. So, that test might have been some Roku related issue. Need more long-term testing...

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I will upgrade to 41174, apply settings from these guides and follow up with the results.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
the qca wireless settings wiki was fine, but now only parts of it are. its been edited and quite honestly, filled with crap and wrong info. almost as bad as broadcom's wiki, so pick through it with care.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok. Following up on this.

I applied the wireless settings recommended in links shared here. It seemed that none of the links were completely up-to-date. So, I tried to take what appeared to me as the most deliberate settings from each.

The result was pretty good. It was a definite improvement from my initial settings.

However, it's still not performing to where it had been when I was using Kong on wireless.

With Kong, I was able to stream 1080p plus quality to Plex (via Roku or Android) without interruption. Now, it seems to be kind of hit and miss. Even on the 5G Android, some 1080p buffer constantly and have to be downgraded to lower qualities to watch.

I am assuming that some codecs or compression cause the server to work a little harder and thus the transmission speed has to be faster to avoid buffering. This never happened on the Kong builds though.

Any advice on specific settings to look at? Or, maybe a more recent settings recommendation to follow?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
wheaton4prez wrote:
Any advice on specific settings to look at? Or, maybe a more recent settings recommendation to follow?


What wireless mode are you using?
post a picture (760 pixels wide please) of your status>wireless for both radios- so two pictures.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 22:41    Post subject: Reply with quote
msoengineer wrote:
wheaton4prez wrote:
Any advice on specific settings to look at? Or, maybe a more recent settings recommendation to follow?


What wireless mode are you using?
post a picture (760 pixels wide please) of your status>wireless for both radios- so two pictures.


Wireless Mode: AP

Wireless status for both radios attached.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
It looks like you have a ton of "legacy" devices that are not connecting at N or AC speeds on 5ghz, and 2.4ghz to boot...

this means that you will not get full speeds like you're expecting. At best your actual speeds will be less than half the rate they are connecting to your router at.

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[R9000]52396 nightly (Main Router)
[EA8500]43192 & 45493 (2xOffsite)
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wheaton4prez
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
msoengineer wrote:
It looks like you have a ton of "legacy" devices that are not connecting at N or AC speeds on 5ghz, and 2.4ghz to boot...

this means that you will not get full speeds like you're expecting. At best your actual speeds will be less than half the rate they are connecting to your router at.


I believe that most of those are actually N capable devices. Is there something that would cause them to connect at lower "LEGACY" speed?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
Also, as noted earlier, the one device showing on 5G is also having buffering issues that I didn't have with Kong...
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