Adding wireless router to apartment network connection

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TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:26    Post subject: Adding wireless router to apartment network connection Reply with quote
Alright here is the deal. I live in a apartment complex that has free WIFI and all the rooms are networked with Ethernet. The problem is the WIFI always always cuts in and out. And not only that but it is slow, but the Ethernet is throwing 14 megs down!!!! So I want to hook up my own wireless router to get a better connection and better upload/download. The problem is when I hook up this router I get "local only." Do I selection a "diagnose and repair" option and it said something about the DNS. Does anyone have a solution. Would I have to configure a PPPoE connection? I believe the routers the apartment complex is using are Netgear. Can somebody PLEASE help me! Long Ethernet cables going across the apartment needs to come to an END!!!! I will pay $50 to whom ever gives me a winning solution via PayPal!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paste a screenshot of the status/WAN & setup pages.
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TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 20:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
I will as soon as I get back to my place!
TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 21:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here ya go! Let me know if you need anything else.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 21:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
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TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 21:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
And finally... Didn't know if you need my ip. It's static so it changes ... Thats why I have both that I found.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 0:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
Need to see the Status -> WAN screen as well.

Also, what I can see from some of the pics is that the IP address range when connected directly to the apartment LAN is the same IP address range when you are connected to your router (both being in the 192.168.1.x range). You need to go to the setup tab on your router and change your LAN IP range from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.2.x by changing your router's IP address to 192.168.2.1, Save & Apply settings.

Your pc will need to grab a new IP address from your router in this new IP range and once that is done you should be able to get out to the internet with your router connected to the apartment network.

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TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 17:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
Awesome! Thanks for the info! I will try this when I get back to my apartment after my classes for the day! I will also post a screen shot of the WAN status page! Very Happy
TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alright, I got an internet connection and it was quick. Then I changed the network to hidden because we aren't supposed to have routers... So then the connection got slow, from 14 megs down to 1.5 megs... What would cause that? Can I not hide the network without losing performance?
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TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
Even after a 30-30-30 reset it's still slow on default settings.. Any ideas?
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-Logging Facebook Chat Messages ((In-progress))
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 19:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
While I understand the intent and need, not broadcasting your SSID comes w/ some caveats (although a loss of performance isn't one of them, at least not directly, see below).

For example, Windows will always prefer a station broadcasting its SSID over one that's not. So let's say someone else is broadcasting their SSID and using open wifi; you could (without realizing it) be connected to THEIR wireless router! And thus it might account for the difference in performance, esp. if it's a weak signal. You might need to go into the wireless adapter's properties and force Windows to prefer your connection.

Another oddity about Windows is that even if the other system that's broadcasting its SSID is secured, and doesn't even use the same security type and/or key, Windows will repeatedly attempt to connect to that other system, EVEN if the other system is not using your SSID! IOW, it’s repeatedly dropping your connection, trying the other, failing, then returing back to the working connection. The net effect is a loss of performance.

I know, it sounds all very strange, but it’s the way Microsoft has interpreted the wireless spec. The truth is, you should always broadcast your SSID. Attempts to hide it for security or stealth lead to all kinds of problems. Many of them quite subtle.

Yeah, it might be something else I suppose, I’m not there, so I’m just speculating. But I’ve seen ppl get into all kinds of problems like this when not broadcasting their SSID. Sometimes you get away w/ it, sometimes not. It depends on factors that vary quite a bit, such as the likelihood of other wireless networks in the immediate area (needless to say, an apartment complex is ripe for these types of problems).
TFroehlich3
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 15:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you very much for all the input. I did infact figure out what was going on with the performance issue. The complex I live in is using a junk Netgear switch to hard wire all the apartments running 10/100, not gigabit. So in the evening when everyone is using the internet and downloading, the switch can't handle it all, driving the PING from 35 or so to 230+, and then of course the upload/download performance is just about killed.. ha
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-Adding wireless AP connection from existing LAN connection coming from apartment clubhouse. ((DONE!))
-Adding Hi-gain antenna's to router to share connection throughout the building. ((Researching))
-Logging Facebook Chat Messages ((In-progress))
-Hosting websites from a Linux web server from home. ((Building server))
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent thread..!!! Thanks for the information.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent thread..!!! Thanks for the information.
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