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MrDoh
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 16:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alozaros wrote:
MrDoh wrote:
Have an R7800, and may be getting Gb. fiber soon. Is SFE fully working for the R7800, assuming I'm not using QoS, etc.? Currently using r36020.

Thanks.


is it symmetrical GBit or its a 500/500 GBbit, or its an up to a Gigbit so as much you can see out of it...
i tested my unit back in the days and it was going close to Gigbit like 900+ , now i have only 200/200 beautifully working on it...
check you cables get the best one...
i ve also seen ipv6 GBbit beautifully working on it..


Sounds like it's worth a try, then *smile*. I have IPv6 working now with it (250/10), so I'll be trying to get that working with the Gb. fiber as well. It's an "up to 1Gb.", so I expect to see variations.

The 250/10 that I have now barely has enough upload speed to hold everything together...my previous tier was 150/5 which did fall apart due to slow upload speed. That's the only reason that I went up to the 250/10 speed tier, there's enough upload speed that my internet backup can run at the same time that my wife's watching a movie and I'm trying to download something.

In addition the Gb. fiber has no data cap, where I have a 1TB data cap now. And I plan to get our TV on the internet, as well, so I'm looking to get rid of the data cap.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:43    Post subject: R7800 supported versions? Reply with quote
Hi,

I would like to buy a R7800, but first I wanted to make sure that it will work with dd-wrt.

However, I see that here in dd-wrt it suggests that hardware version 1 is supported and has no mention of version 2 : https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices#Netgear
Model H.W rev.
R7800
(AC2600) v1

Here we can see V2 mentioned [Netgear R7800 -100NAS (v2)]: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Netgear_R7800

I will probably pick up the router in-store in the next day or 2 at either Fry's: https://www.frys.com/product/8697300

Or from Micro Center: http://www.microcenter.com/product/460804/nighthawk_x4s_ac2600_r7800_smart_wifi_gaming_router

But, on their web sites it does not mention V1 vs. V2.

Also, what is the difference between hardware revision V1 and V2 and do you recommend one over the other?

Please advise.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
hmm yep they are actually 2 different FCC ID Netgear R7800 know to the public ...Netgear R7800 FCC ID: PY315200310, PY315100319 (v2)...

v2 is the most common one...
NAS - means North American Power Supply

yep you can go for it, as long as you know what are you doing and how to be done its ok...
final measure it has a serial too Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 17:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi,

Thanks Alozaros.

So, it sounds like from your perspective that R7800 v2 will work.

Are there some specific builds of dd-wrt that are recommended for v2 then?

Note: I am not sure whether Fry's and/or Micro Centre stock v1 vs. v2, but likely at this point they will have only v2.

Thanks,
Greg
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 17:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
Currently the best build is here http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/Test/
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RT-AC68U - stock

Wifi settings:
ac/n-ng-mixed, noise immunity, short preamble (2.4g), short gi, rts/cts+threshold, ack timing 1350, hfsc-fq_codel
*spectrum cable 100/10Mbps ipv4

QoS sauce:
htb vs hfsc: https://gist.github.com/eqhmcow/939373
fq_codel: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8290
pie: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8033

*Things I shared here is for reference only, ie. it works for me does not mean it will work for you. And yes apparently such disclaimer is needed around here
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 19:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
GT-UK-DDWRT wrote:
Hi,

Thanks Alozaros.

So, it sounds like from your perspective that R7800 v2 will work.

Are there some specific builds of dd-wrt that are recommended for v2 then?

Note: I am not sure whether Fry's and/or Micro Centre stock v1 vs. v2, but likely at this point they will have only v2.

Thanks,
Greg


yep all its the same only one build is available for R7800
first reset to defaults, than for first flash flash with
R7800-factory-to-ddwrt.img via GUI than restart and once you are on DD-WRT fo rnext upgrades use .bin file ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin

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TP-Link WR740Nv1 ---DD-WRT 55630 WAP
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -DD-WRT 55723 Gateway/DoT,Forced DNS,Ad-Block,Firewall,x4VLAN,VPN
TP-Link WR1043NDv2 -Gargoyle OS 1.15.x AP,DNS,QoS,Quotas
Qualcomm-Atheros
Netgear XR500 --DD-WRT 55779 Gateway/DoH,Forced DNS,AP Isolation,4VLAN,Ad-Block,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R7800 --DD-WRT 55819 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,Forced DNS,AP&Net Isolation,x3VLAN,Firewall,Vanilla
Netgear R9000 --DD-WRT 55779 Gateway/DoT,AD-Block,AP Isolation,Firewall,Forced DNS,x2VLAN,Vanilla
Broadcom
Netgear R7000 --DD-WRT 55460 Gateway/SmartDNS/DoH,AD-Block,Firewall,Forced DNS,x3VLAN,VPN
NOT USING 5Ghz ANYWHERE
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lannykim
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 16:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
Per Yngve Berg wrote:
36020 works perfectly.

ddup --flash-remote http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/Test/ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin


I'll give that one a try because I'm having issues with OpenVPN working properly. If 36020 fixes the problem I will post it.

I am using DD-WRT v3.0-r35244 std 03/05/18 with the Netgear R7800 X4S AC2600

Using the following, it will not connect to the VPN.

AES 256 CBC
+ SHA 1
+ UDP
+ TLS AUTH KEY
+ CA CERT
+ TLS Cipher None
+ LZO compression Yes
+ Nat/Firewall enabled

I enter these settings plus my TLS Auth key and CA cert, apply settings, reboot router. Wait 5 minutes. After reboot, the settings do not take and it exposes my IP address completely.

ADDITIONAL CONFIG:

tls-client
tls-cipher TLS-DHE-RSA-WITH-AES-256-CBC-SHA
key-direction 1
resolv-retry infinite
keepalive 10 60
nobind
persist-key
persist-tun
persist-remote-ip
verb 3


When I switch back to a simpler setup using AES 128 CBC, it connects to a VPN properly. No TLS Auth Key is used and the Additional Config is much simpler.

persist-key
persist-tun
tls-client
remote-cert-tls server

The rest of the settings are almost exactly the same:
+ SHA 1
+ UDP
+ CA CERT
+ TLS Cipher None
+ LZO compression Yes
+ Nat/Firewall enabled
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 22:26    Post subject: R7800 fw situation as of June 2018 Reply with quote
I’m using with satisfaction DD-WRT v3.0-r32470M kongat (06/27/17), and considering IF to upgrade to something newer and more stable.


So I would kindly ask you:

@tatsuya46
you advised that
- a big latency is coming from kernel 4.9, and no fix in sight for k4.x.
- and 5ghz cause radio hang/crash

does this means that that suggested version to consider is only up to a certain number in Kong and/or BS version ?


@Malachi
many are talking about r35900M , and even you did rolled back to 35900M ( About fw 36020, tickets are reported of bugs with iphone ecosystem).
Where can I find such 35900M version ?

Kong repository has two main directory:
-stable http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/ - ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin 2018-02-15 15:17

-test. http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/Test/ - ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin 2018-06-10 23:43


but I cannot find any information about the version numbers of both.
Do you know which numbers do they have ?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 22:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
The 35900M is posted in a thread on here somewhere. I am now using the latest Kong test version and it seems fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 23:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
Malachi wrote:
The 35900M is posted in a thread on here somewhere.


posted here https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=315220

10 down by @Alozaros

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 0:06    Post subject: Re: R7800 fw situation as of June 2018 Reply with quote
Giuliano1969 wrote:
I’m using with satisfaction DD-WRT v3.0-r32470M kongat (06/27/17), and considering IF to upgrade to something newer and more stable.


just use the latest kong version now, http://desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/Test/ both of those are "fixed" in it, well the second issue is fixed. first one is worked around by not using a crap kernel, kong is still on 3.18. just avoid bs builds.. they are awful and bs dont seem to care to fix anything (for any router that is).. bs builds have:

-horrible downlink qos latency especially at 100mbps+
-lack of qos PIE
-ghost added cpu load when cpu freq scaling is enabled, its so much it cripples local wifi throughput, let alone wan performance. when cpu freq scaling is off it MOSTLY gets rid of it
-httpd (web interface) STILL complete crap, loading corrupt pages, hangs, crashes, since r33006
-mDNS (ios devices, network printers etc) is intermittently broken still for ath10k radios

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
Maybe I’ve complitely MISUNDERSTOOD the meaning of kong directory ....

I’ve considered the test directory as a beta/gamma , and the root directory as the stable one.
Is this the meaning of the directory ?
-stable http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/ - ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin 2018-02-15 15:17
-test. http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/Test/ - ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin 2018-06-10 2


It seems that both fo your (Malachi & tatsuya46) are using the test fw.

I Kindly ask:
- Which version numbers are the current “Test” and “stable” fw ?
- Coming from v3.0-r32470M, may I upgrade it directly to new Test/Stable from the GUI WITHOUT reset ?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:52    Post subject: Reply with quote
Giuliano1969 wrote:
Maybe I’ve complitely MISUNDERSTOOD the meaning of kong directory ....

I’ve considered the test directory as a beta/gamma , and the root directory as the stable one.
Is this the meaning of the directory ?
-stable http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/ - ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin 2018-02-15 15:17
-test. http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/Test/ - ddwrt-netgear-R7800.bin 2018-06-10 2


It seems that both fo your (Malachi & tatsuya46) are using the test fw.

I Kindly ask:
- Which version numbers are the current “Test” and “stable” fw ?
- Coming from v3.0-r32470M, may I upgrade it directly to new Test/Stable from the GUI WITHOUT reset ?


- Test 36100M Stable 35320M. Current Test is better, enough to be the next stable build.
- Reset strongly recommended. Backup settings, reset when flash, then restore. If not working then either reset again and setup from scratch or use previous build.

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RT-AC68U - stock

Wifi settings:
ac/n-ng-mixed, noise immunity, short preamble (2.4g), short gi, rts/cts+threshold, ack timing 1350, hfsc-fq_codel
*spectrum cable 100/10Mbps ipv4

QoS sauce:
htb vs hfsc: https://gist.github.com/eqhmcow/939373
fq_codel: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8290
pie: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8033

*Things I shared here is for reference only, ie. it works for me does not mean it will work for you. And yes apparently such disclaimer is needed around here
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
When resetting and then restoring a back up is like not resetting. So why bother?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 13:48    Post subject: Current build dropping packets? Reply with quote
We just installed an ac2600 xs4 flashed with: Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r34900M kongat. First off, the signal strength is relatively horrible considering how powerful this device is and there seems to be intermittent packet drops occurring (with or without load).

I have tried digging into the forums, but there are so many pages following the development of this firmware, that I can't feasibly read them all.

Are there current known issues such as these? The only radio that matters, at this point, is the 2.4. There is no VPN, no USB setup, basically just a secured AP/router.
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